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Bilstein 5100's height question?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Overland WT, Aug 10, 2022.

  1. Aug 10, 2022 at 10:02 AM
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    Overland WT

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    Did a search and didn't quite get an understanding.

    I've never had a 4x4 that I have lifted with struts, so this is new to me. How does the 5100 create lift in front if, as I assume, you use the OEM springs? With Wranglers, they don't use struts and lifts are accomplished with either pucks on the spring with a spacer for the shock (all OEM components) or replacing springs and shocks for desired length (adjustable or fixed).

    In addition, I've never seen on here anyone using a Rancho lift. I've run Rancho twice on Jeeps and had good success with them. Both were the adjustable 9100's. Saw a Rancho kit for 4Runner and was curious why no one seems to use them?
     
  2. Aug 10, 2022 at 10:12 AM
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    The lower spring perch on the front struts have 4 different settings. The lowest perch setting gives you 0 lift. As you raise the spring perch up (3 additional settings) it gives you more lift.

    The rear needs a standard lift coil (or spacer) to achieve a lift.
     
  4. Aug 10, 2022 at 10:34 AM
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    That makes sense. I should have just looked the dynamics of a strut assembly.

    I am considering this for my wifes 2017 ORP 4Runner as she wants it closer to level in front and is only a part time commuter, My rig is our overland rig with a Icon stage 1. Feedback seems ok with the 5100 setup?
     
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    So specifically with a spacer lift, it creates more toe in position at full droop as well?
     
  6. Aug 10, 2022 at 11:13 AM
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    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

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    I accomplished what your wife wants on my '19 OR with Eibach shocks, with the front set at .85 (second clip slot). Very similar to Bilstein. I've had several people who've had both say the Eibachs ride better, but I only know what I have rides better, i.e. a bit firmer, than stock, with the vehicle more level.
     
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    I have the 5100 set up all around and a 1" cornfed spacer in the rear, which gives it a slight lift and still retains a little factory rake. Looks great and the ride has been much better than stock, although there is still some brake dive. I think the cost vs the added performance in handling are well worth it for the 5100s. Just my 2 cents...
     
  8. Aug 10, 2022 at 12:55 PM
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    Maybe you're talking about camber??

    If I'm understanding your question correctly, no, A-arms do not camber in (positive camber) at full droop. The camber (and toe) stays consistent during the wheel travel.

    An I-beam suspension set-up (like the 1990's Ford Rangers and Explorers had) creates more positive camber as the suspension droops.

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