California smog check will now look for modified ECU software

I think the people that don’t see these gigantic homeless fortresses everywhere must be blind, because they are literally everywhere.

I do have to give Caltrans some credit for cleaning up the biggest ones on Highway 80 by Emeryville and Berkeley, but the question still remains where the hell did all the homeless go?

 

Also 17 million in the metro with poor public transit, errbody pumping that hot gas into the atmosphere

 

L.A. metro area = almost 17 million people, that might have something to do with smog. Plus all the vehicles.

 

That's on the auto makers.

They do have the option to make vehicles for other states. They choose not to.

 

Agreed. Hence the need for stricter emission regulations.

No one wants to breathe that shit in constantly.

Again, each state has the right to choose their own laws per the 10th Amendment.

And smog is not just a California problem. The following states have emission regulations that are just as strict as California:

Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico (2011 model year and later), New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington (2009 model year and later), as well as the District of Columbia.

 

Agreed, I think manufacturer should stop selling performance cars in those states. And continue selling cars that don’t meet the strict emissions everywhere else in the normal United States.

When the GT3 did not meet California’s strict emissions and noise regulations and the manual transmission model could not be sold here, it took with some angry calls from some tech Bros with preorders to have the governor quietly let Porsche sell it here.

I think people should take this to their leaders. Car manufacturer shouldn’t be appealing to politicians.

All it takes is enough people getting annoyed that they can get nice cars or affordable ones because of the idiots they voted for and we will start to see change we can believe in.

Also, one season of wildfires due to political incompetence creates more pollution than every single car in California combined.

 

Wildfires are a natural phenomenon that have been happening for millennia.

Pulling dino fuel out of the ground and emitting it into the air through combustion is not a natural phenomenon and relatively new in the grand scheme of things.

It's not a fair comparison.

Car manufacturers are allowed to make special cars targeted for certain states with fewer regs. The problem is often times it's not economical for them to do it. Nobody's stopping them. They are making business decisions that benefit them.......which is their right.

 

Forestry management is something most civilized countries besides the United States can accomplish… and maybe Canada.

And last time I checked, and every time the power goes out, I thought this was due to our failing third world power grid? But I’m sure adding millions more electric cars to our highways when internal combustion gets outlawed is going to fix that.

 

Forest fires are still going to happen despite management efforts.

Fires are vital for a lot of ecosystems to thrive. They need to happen.

I don't understand the reason to compare forestry management with car emissions?

 

Because when a “natural” event such as a forest fire or volcano produces more emissions than every single car, then you realize that it’s kind of a pointless endeavor to get so hysterical about man-made global climate change warming.

But it looks like a lot of Chinese car companies want to flood the market with garbage electric cars, so it increasing emissions regulations are here to stay unless we start voting out politicians.

 

I reject the premise of your argument.

"According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide. Despite the arguments to the contrary, the facts speak for themselves: Greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes comprise less than one percent of those generated by today’s human endeavors."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/

 

True story: so many people are fleeing California that UHaul keeps running out of moving vans. So that means that they're losing the people who are smart enough to dessert the sinking ship. So if you think it's bad now just wait until only the dummies are left.

 

Agreed. The issue is policy use to be to let the majority of them run their course. Policy changed more than a few decades ago when the population sprawled into the beautiful hills surrounding major cities. Then minor cities. Then towns. The folks with the means to buy into those spectacular views were kinda miffed when the closest fire departments failed to respond to their fire calls (remember the Oakland Hills fires of '91 and the socio-economic folks it affected?). Policy changed to fight nearly all of them. Decades of deadfall accumulated/accumulates because of it and, Viola, here we are.

No discussion regarding emissions is complete without reviewing the impact of heating/cooling commercial buildings worldwide. Context matters.

 

In the 1980s it was “Don’t Californicate Oregon” and Washington. Back then it was kind of an edgy protest against uncontrolled expansion and commercialism in general. Now it’s “Don’t California my …”. More PG rated and acceptable to grandmas and pastors. Another pop chant in the political toolbox. And easier to sell T-shirts and other merch made in Honduras and China.