1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

KING 2.5 EXT TRAVEL ISSUES MAYBE?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by toomanytacos, May 27, 2021.

  1. May 27, 2021 at 8:31 AM
    #1
    toomanytacos

    toomanytacos [OP] IG: @too.many.tacos

    Joined:
    May 27, 2021
    Member:
    #21678
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jerrod
    Brenham, Texas
    Vehicle:
    2016 T4R Trail
    Too many to list and growing.
    2016 Trail Edition

    Previously had ICON 2.5's w/ JBA UCA's set at 3" of lift in the front. ICON 2" with OME shocks in the rear. Truck rode good, tracked straight, squatted in the back because of all the added weight. Had spherical bearings going out so I found a set of NIB King's on marketplace and made the swap.

    I recently had a shop in Denver replace the front end setup. Went with the SPC UCA's and the King 2.5" Ext Travel and 650lb springs. (I do have a slimline front bumper and winch, steel skid setup) I replaced the rear setup on my own in the driveway before the front was done. Went with Dobinson 701v coils and the King 2.5 Ext Travel w/adjusters on the rear. I do have some weight in the rear but not a ton.

    The truck has a ton of understeer and some moderate bumpsteer since the front replacement. Keep in mind I did the rears in my driveway about a week before the front was done and I didn't have this issue. At highway speeds when I move right it almost feels like I'm going to roll over. When I move left it isn't near as bad. It has moderate sway, swaybars have been off since forever and didn't act like this prior to the swap. Truck does ride rough (stiff) as expected due to the higher weight cap springs.

    Is this a Nitro pressure issue in one of the front shocks?

    Do they have the front lifted too high?

    Are my coil rates too much or too uneven front to rear?

    t4r.jpg
     
  2. May 27, 2021 at 12:41 PM
    #2
    SlvrSlug

    SlvrSlug Slightly bent.

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2018
    Member:
    #6172
    Messages:
    7,856
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    John
    Ramona Ca.
    Vehicle:
    2017 4-Runner SR-5 P. Kings, Built Right uca’s, Durabumps, RSG sliders
    I have to ask…….they did an alignment right?
     
    nimby likes this.
  3. May 27, 2021 at 12:42 PM
    #3
    toomanytacos

    toomanytacos [OP] IG: @too.many.tacos

    Joined:
    May 27, 2021
    Member:
    #21678
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jerrod
    Brenham, Texas
    Vehicle:
    2016 T4R Trail
    Too many to list and growing.
    Yes, they did. Did not get an alignment sheet with it though.
     
  4. May 27, 2021 at 12:44 PM
    #4
    SlvrSlug

    SlvrSlug Slightly bent.

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2018
    Member:
    #6172
    Messages:
    7,856
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    John
    Ramona Ca.
    Vehicle:
    2017 4-Runner SR-5 P. Kings, Built Right uca’s, Durabumps, RSG sliders
    Can you take it back to the shop? Sounds like they did something wrong.
     
    nimby likes this.
  5. May 27, 2021 at 12:47 PM
    #5
    toomanytacos

    toomanytacos [OP] IG: @too.many.tacos

    Joined:
    May 27, 2021
    Member:
    #21678
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jerrod
    Brenham, Texas
    Vehicle:
    2016 T4R Trail
    Too many to list and growing.
    That's my next step, when I have time.
     
  6. May 27, 2021 at 1:33 PM
    #6
    kmeeg

    kmeeg New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Member:
    #5853
    Messages:
    5,284
    Gender:
    Male
    That 4Runner looks sooooo good. Love that bumper cut and the low profile winch bumper.

    Question to experts other than the issue reported by the OP.

    Does the angle on the front look ok? I was just comparing with mine and thinking with that angle will there be much travel in front? (I was thinking if we could keep it flat as possible it will give more wheel travel.) Sorry if it's dumb question, I don't have any technical knowledge on that.

    upload_2021-5-27_14-24-59.jpg
    upload_2021-5-27_14-30-33.jpg
     
  7. May 27, 2021 at 7:39 PM
    #7
    nimby

    nimby in the drink

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2017
    Member:
    #3777
    Messages:
    4,691
    First Name:
    Jake
    California
    Vehicle:
    2018 SR5P
    How many inches of lift up front now with the Kings?
     
    toomanytacos[OP] likes this.
  8. May 27, 2021 at 7:43 PM
    #8
    Mtbpsych

    Mtbpsych New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2018
    Member:
    #7922
    Messages:
    1,886
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 SR5
    It looks like the kings are probably cranked up as high as they go, so they won’t optimal performance at that setting. If alignment is in check, I’d try lowering the amount of preload and seeing if that fixes the issue. Rear springs seem to have a rating of 215lbs-260lbs which is fine, 650 for the front seems perfect for your setup. You could also check the settings on your resi adjuster to see if that helps. One thing I would also check since you have KDSS, is make sure the sway bar is in check and angles aren’t crazy or off. Since it’s controlled by hydraulic fluid based on the angle on the vehicle, that could cause some issues I would think. They make drop brackets for the rear sway bar.
     
    toomanytacos[OP] likes this.
  9. May 27, 2021 at 9:10 PM
    #9
    toomanytacos

    toomanytacos [OP] IG: @too.many.tacos

    Joined:
    May 27, 2021
    Member:
    #21678
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jerrod
    Brenham, Texas
    Vehicle:
    2016 T4R Trail
    Too many to list and growing.
    Non KDSS truck, and no sway bars on it either.
     
  10. May 27, 2021 at 9:12 PM
    #10
    toomanytacos

    toomanytacos [OP] IG: @too.many.tacos

    Joined:
    May 27, 2021
    Member:
    #21678
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jerrod
    Brenham, Texas
    Vehicle:
    2016 T4R Trail
    Too many to list and growing.
    Center hub to fender is 23.5". It was at 3" of lift previously with the ICON setup and they were supposed to match it. I did not get a hub to fender measurement beforehand.
     
  11. May 27, 2021 at 9:33 PM
    #11
    Mtbpsych

    Mtbpsych New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2018
    Member:
    #7922
    Messages:
    1,886
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 SR5
    Didn’t all trail editions come with KDSS?
     
  12. May 27, 2021 at 9:35 PM
    #12
    toomanytacos

    toomanytacos [OP] IG: @too.many.tacos

    Joined:
    May 27, 2021
    Member:
    #21678
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jerrod
    Brenham, Texas
    Vehicle:
    2016 T4R Trail
    Too many to list and growing.
    Not this one! I've honestly never heard that. I can definitely verify this is a TE though.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top