1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Help!! bent/rusted frame...how bad is it??

Discussion in '2nd Gen 4Runners (1990-1995)' started by b79turner, Oct 15, 2020.

  1. Oct 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM
    #1
    b79turner

    b79turner [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2020
    Member:
    #17354
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Vestavia Hills, AL
    Is it “no big deal” or is this a legit concern? I bought a 1995 4x4 3.0 earlier this year. Overall in great mechanical condition, bone stock and previous owner had it for the last 20 years. He told me about a "minor" front end collision that happened 18 years ago and said insurance paid for it and fixed it. I saw the damage reported on Carfax, it looked repaired to me and I didn’t think much else about it. After a week or two I noticed the bumper didn’t line up straight and OCD me decided to remove the bumper to have a better look. The front left (passenger) side of the frame appears to be bent and has a good bit of rust. I'm assuming this bend is why the bumper doesn't line up. Does this look like a structural issue to be concerned about? Or should I take a wire brush to that rust, put the bumper back on and call it a day? Thanks for the help!

    IMG_2161.jpg
    IMG_2164.jpg
    IMG_2174.jpg
    IMG_2836.jpg
    IMG_2849.jpg
    IMG_2851.jpg
    IMG_2853.jpg
    IMG_2839.jpg
    IMG_2844.jpg
     
  2. Oct 15, 2020 at 7:46 PM
    #2
    SR5 Limited

    SR5 Limited New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2018
    Member:
    #7180
    Messages:
    13,553
    Vehicle:
    1996 SR5 Limited
    Prob less rust than mine. Looks good! I think the bumper may be bent a lil not the frame.
     
    b79turner[OP] likes this.
  3. Oct 15, 2020 at 8:55 PM
    #3
    4Runner170V

    4Runner170V New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2020
    Member:
    #16853
    Messages:
    360
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tony
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2014 4Runner Trail
    SSO Slimline Bumper w/Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch FOX 2.5 Front, 2.0 Rear/ICON UCA/OME Rear Spring 33X12.50R17 DRIFTA Drawer System ARB Awning APS Side Steps ICS Fab. Center Console Mount LFD Roof Rack Cross Bar Dual Battery System HAM/GMRS Mobile Radio
    I am not sure about frame alignment, but regarding rust, I can help. I worked for the company who distributed corrosion protection chemicals. Give a good wire brushing. take off as much as you can. There are two choices since it is already rusted. One. Put a good cavity wax spray to the rusted section. depends on the manufacture, you may have to spray once a year. I use Noxudol 750 which you can spray once in every 3-5 years depends on the condition. Two. spray cavity wax and undercoat. I had Tacoma and used Noxudol 750 and 900 spray. light coat of cavity wax 750 and let it cure for about 48 hours then spray 900 undercoat.

    or you can replace all section.
     
    b79turner[OP] likes this.
  4. Oct 16, 2020 at 9:06 AM
    #4
    trlhiker

    trlhiker Lazy Bum

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2019
    Member:
    #11913
    Messages:
    2,330
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    1992 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4
    I would check and make sure your bumper is straight. Years ago I got into an accident and they replaced the bumper with an aftermarket one. It didn't line up worth crap. The top middle was a bit bowed up and the sides were like what you have. A few years later a guy backed into me and messed up the bumper again. This time I made sure they used an oem one and it lined up perfectly. You may also try loosening the bumper and see if you can shift it.
     
    b79turner[OP] likes this.
  5. Oct 16, 2020 at 9:59 AM
    #5
    Trail Runnah

    Trail Runnah New Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2020
    Member:
    #14189
    Messages:
    2,935
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2013 T4R Trail Edition
    Stock
    Lol at the rust, my 2013 looks like that here in New England.
     
    b79turner[OP] likes this.
  6. Oct 16, 2020 at 11:20 AM
    #6
    Oldtoyotaguy

    Oldtoyotaguy Paid cash for it

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2018
    Member:
    #7224
    Messages:
    1,600
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Toyota 4 Runner Offroad
    That’s a tricky one, b79turner! A couple of friends are involved in restoring old cars, and stuff like this is a mystery that needs to be solved! One of them just solved the mystery of the 1959 Lincoln that was 1/4 longer on one side than the other. You will need some stock reference points from which to base multiple measurements. Once you have accounted for any discrepancies, the source will be revealed. That’s how the experts do it. It’s not easy! Good luck!
    As for the rust, it looks like about any 4 year old Ontario 4 Runner looks. No big deal, but since it’s a vintage vehicle, I’d clean it up and paint it just for fun.
     
    b79turner[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  7. Oct 16, 2020 at 11:22 AM
    #7
    Dillusion

    Dillusion Resident A**h***

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2018
    Member:
    #7998
    Messages:
    3,079
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kyle
    Island in the Middle of the Ocean
    Vehicle:
    2018 TRD OR
    I'd keep driving no worries.
     
    b79turner[OP] likes this.
  8. Oct 16, 2020 at 12:10 PM
    #8
    glwood54

    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2019
    Member:
    #10964
    Messages:
    6,575
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gary
    Albuquerque, NM
    Vehicle:
    2019 OR, KDSS, RSG sliders, Eibach shocks, 265/70 Falken Wildpeaks
    ^This.

    25 year old vehicle, + you really have to look to see any difference. I'd deal with the rust per @4Runner170V's advice, assuming you're keeping this long term, and call it done. If the 4R drives and handles fine, the difference in the measurements are negligible.
     
    b79turner[OP] likes this.
  9. Oct 17, 2020 at 4:10 AM
    #9
    Trekker

    Trekker Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2020
    Member:
    #15732
    Messages:
    985
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    1997 3rz 5spd
    Bumper is bent, which is how it is on mine. The metal is too thick to hammer it back into place, and it will just damage the chrome (I know from experience).

    Rust has always been something I loathed having on my car, but if I were you I would go at it with a wire wheel and then prime and paint it to prevent future corrosion. My logic in saying this is that rust is like cancer, it might not be bad now, but it can spread and become an issue down the road. Best to take care of it while its manageable and an an accessible place like it is now.
     
  10. Oct 17, 2020 at 5:11 AM
    #10
    bthp223

    bthp223 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2016
    Member:
    #3009
    Messages:
    361
    Gender:
    Male
    Nevada
    Vehicle:
    1990 4X4
    Doesn’t look to bad too me, I’d cleanup up the rust as best you can and paint over it if your worried about. Otherwise I agree, drive it !
     
    b79turner[OP] and Oldtoyotaguy like this.
  11. Oct 19, 2020 at 4:29 PM
    #11
    b79turner

    b79turner [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2020
    Member:
    #17354
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Vestavia Hills, AL
    Thanks everyone, definitely great advice. I’m going to clean up some of that surface rust, put the bumper back on and call it a day.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top