Size Selection Help

I'm still very new to the 4runner world, so I apologize if general topic has been discussed a million times over. I'm trying to find the happy median in terms of tires and wheels for my needs. I'm not a fan of the 2020 ORP wheels so do plan to replace them. The truck has a 3" ironman 4x4 adjustable coilover lift. It will be seeing beginner/intermediate trail use, loose sand beaches for surf fishing but also towing my 2500-3000lbs enclosed race trailer and daily commute. I put stiffer springs in the rear to balance the trailer better.

I'm looking at probably doing a 17x8.5 wheel and thinking a 0 offset. I don't want the tires way outside the fender to keep fuel economy and noise to reasonable levels. Would a better offset work for that? As for tires i'm really at a loss. 285/70 really seems to chew up fuel economy, will decrease towing efficiency plus the rubbing (I don't mind minor trimming), 265/70 seems a bit small, but an AT tread might look better than the stock and still perform well on both the trail and pavement. 275/70 seems like a good compromise but the selection is much more limited. Now i'm seeing 255/80 more as well.

I'm open to other suggestions too, just trying to weigh my options.

 

0 offset is a good call! Mine are -6 and rub on the outside of the tire occasionally.

Size will come down to preference and how you drive. I'm on 285/70/17's in C load rating, 56# apiece. I have lost about 2 MPG, but some of that is due to the larger diameter tires traveling further per revolution(a small amount, but worth noting).

I do notice a slight loss of pep, but only when I'm really on the gas. Normal driving feels about the same. I have not towed much since the lift/tires, etc, but it was fine towing a walk-behind trencher on a flat trailer.

Stock size tires can look good with a lift if there is a good sidewall tread.

For reference- here's mine with 285's and -6 offset. The tires are almost perfectly flush with the fender flares.

 

Thanks, sir. Stance looks really good. I think it reinforces my thought on 0 offset but gives me a better range to look at +6 to -6 for more options. not much loss in efficiency is good to know on the 285. When i lifted my ram i went from 33" to 35" and was surprised at how much fixing my speedo changed by fuel economy on the dash. My day to day fuel economy isn't a huge concern. I mostly don't want to turn it into anymore of a dog than it already is when towing the trailer up hills of West Virginia.

 

I would recommend towing in S4 and maybe even S3 on inclines. I have used S mode to control the RPM's and it's much better than just letting it downshift on it's own(for me). Also, I've been leaving it in S4 on road trips when I'm cruising at lower speeds and it doesn't seem to hurt fuel economy, either.

 

You’ll probably regret not going bigger. Just sayin.

 

define bigger lol? I don't really plan on keeping 265/70, but wasn't sure if 285/70 would be too big considering my personal usage of the vehicle. The major problem being that 275/70 only has about 3 or 4 tire options (that I know of): Wildpeak, Discoverer, Road Venture. 285/70 you can get almost anything.

 

Im running 275 70 17 Cooper AT3 C rated. You go up to 285's there an E rated tire and heavier.

 

Thats going to depend on the tire. Nitto ridge grapplers for example can be found in 285 with a C rating. I'm not sure I really want an E for exactly your point. They get damn heavy.

 

I have ridge grapplers in 285’s. Don’t see the point of e rated for my use

 

Wheel offset? how much cutting was needed for clearance?

 

whatever stock trd pro wheels are, but I have 1.25” spacers

Minor trimming but being careful til I do a BMC

 

so a +4mm offset on the wheels and -31.75mm offset from the spacers, so effectively a -27.75mm offset on a 7" wide wheel. Definitely further than I planned to go out. I have a buddy with a similar setup and it looks damn good, just not for me.