TRD Pro or Limited

An those again are just for looks because the Off-road rims are better designed for actually going off road.

 

Very interesting and helpful perspective. Thanks.

 

Lol

 

true

 

Ok why

 

The Trail rims have significantly more material around the bead area and will resist impacts/rocks better. They have a protected valve stem - that's critical for anyone who wants to play in the rocks and really makes the TRD Pro wheels a non-starter for that type of use. And the Trail wheels are wider - meaning they can fit a larger tire.

The Trail wheels are also, as you say, very cheap to obtain...so when they do get too bashed up it will be cheap and easy to replace.

I know they are not black and don't say TRD on them but they are functionally a smarter choice than the PRO rims. Looks wise? PRO wins. But could also powder coat the Trail rims black and have the best of both worlds.

 

For less than the price difference between a Pro and an Off Road Premium I got a 3" lift, SSO front bumper, 10,000# Smittybilt winch, front Pro grill and everything blacked out. So, for a lot less money I got a far more capable off road vehicle. I could add Pro wheels, but won't because they are not wide enough, and still be less than the price difference. I am considering a black powder coat on the factory wheels. Guess it depends on whether you want "Show or Go". Not to mention color choices. Pro is only black, white or that blue thing.

Bill

 

make it a $2k or so... cuz you're gonna want some fancy new tires for the shiny new rims..

 

I think you are, those offroad rims are fugly!

 

Oh and don't forget the Pro grille that they are going to want to swap to! LOL

 

Definitely not alone, I am also fine with my Trail wheels. An always thought the PRO grill swap was stupid also. $400 plus for that appearance item. Just more proof the PRO is all about looks instead of function. An appearance package.

Now the new chinese knockoff PRO grill for $130 would be something I may do but only because I want to put a light bar up high in the grill instead of down low where people usually put one. Using these SDHQ mounts.

https://sdhqoffroad.com/collections...nt-4runner-20-behind-the-grille-top-mount-kit

 

I don't want to go to the Pro's and do like the trail wheels but I did want to tone down the chrome a bit so I went with the vinyl on them. Holding up well so far and easy to replace if they get scratched up. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Premium-Ca...315028?hash=item2aaf4758d4:g:utYAAOSwTfFbTUAz

 

I got the pro because I didn't want to change anything. It has everything I like, nothing I don't. I also plan on keeping it 30 years.

 

That's awesome, I got the Trail for the same reasons...just hope I can stick to that 30 years plan as I tend to stray from time to time.

 

That’s exactly the right spirit! Goodness of fit between one designer’s vision and one driver’s aesthetic. Really nice to read that. Congrats on the perfect marriage.

 

One good thing about the Pro wheels is they are 25lbs, designed for strength & performance. I guess thats more than one thing.

 

Right on cue! Lmao

 

Lol

 

When Wally wakes up he will give you the business too! Lol

 

I dont' understand why my comments are viewed as attacks? As mentioned, the PRO is an Off-road with appearance items added at the port, a special color, different shocks added at the port, and a $10,000 price increase. You do realize the PRO is an Off-road don't you??? It's the same vehicle as an Off-road with items added at the port. You do know that right???

The PRO has great resale. So as I have stated many times....if you are NOT going to mod it buy the PRO because you will have great resale value....if you are going to mod your 4...new suspension...wheels and tires, etc...., save yourself a lot of money and buy the Off-road. Why pay twice for things? In my mind that is just dumb. But YMMV and it's your money. Do whatever you want.... but..

You can literally build an Off-road with better aftermarket suspension, wheels, tires, skids, bumpers, etc...for less money than it would cost to buy a stock PRO. This is not an attack, this is the facts.

 

Damn them pesky old facts. And if the Pro suspension is the end all of off road, why do I see so many for sale? Just saw one on this very forum today.

 

Am I correct in understanding that when the Limited is put into H4L or L4L, and the center differential is locked, that means 50-50 traction-power split front/rear, but the distribution between the two fronts is variable, as is the distribution between the two rears? If, yes, then why is a "real" locked rear differential, where both wheels spin at the same rate, better at extricating the truck when it's stuck?

 

This is how Toyota describes it and they make it seem as if something gets locked

A Full Time 4WD system, available on the 4Runner Limited 4WD, has the following drive modes, all of them provide drive power to both front and rear wheels (there is no two wheel drive mode on the Full Time 4WD system):
•H4F – High Speed, Free Center Differential
•Used for normal driving on dry, hard-surfaced roads. This position gives the greatest fuel economy, quietest ride, and least wear.
•H4L – High Speed, Locked Center Differential
•Used for driving in situations that allow tires to slide, such as off road and ice or snowy roads.
•L4L – Low Speed, Locked Center Differential
•Maximum power and traction, for climbing or descending steep hills, off road use, or hard pulling in san, mud or deep snow.

I’m assuming Locked CenterDifferential means 50-50 front-rear? But, unlike a locked rear dif, the two rear wheels can still spin at different speeds?