3 peak mountain

Interesting video...
Don't know if it is true
..

https://youtu.be/XcMWMCCVp4M?si=rjLms7LwplVLqB7U

 

This gonna be good

 

For those of us without internet, what's the video say?

 

Sounds like I need to get a set of those Tiger Paws.

 

Should you believe everything that's said in a you tube video?

 

Here you go. This is a tire thread I can get behind.
https://www.uniroyaltires.com/products/tiger-paw-touring-all-season

 

Didn’t watch, but I know the 3PMSF rating is hardly comprehensive. Misconception about it denoting a superior winter tire is probably a misconception but of course, “lie” gets the clicks.

https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/what-is-the-threepeak-mountain-snowflake-symbol

 

Well BFGs suck so there’s that.

 

Always have, and always will. They sure sell a shitload of tires though.

 

Their offroad tires were good in the 80s/90s. Now Toyota owners just fap to them because of Ivan Stewart. I had them on my Ranger and they sucked on road and were mediocre offroad.

 

Not sure about that statement, but I'm not sure. I didn't have much complain about them but sure they were not good as Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs. By looking at some reviews;






On another test the KO3 seems to be improved version of KO2

 

I had issue with Duratracs. Somehow less traction than the BFGs on the street. Offroad they worked better for me but they got noisy with age.

 

In a world of varying tire weight loading (unsprung/sprung), contact patch size (wheel size), tread design, siping...I only go with a 3PMS rated tire just to appease chain control during winter months. Experience has taught me several things, drive smart and practice in an empty lot to see what your tire/rig is capable of regardless of which tire brand.

Does a tire with a 3PMS symbol perform better in ice/snow condirions? Just watch the seasonal reports from the Truckee CHP! Especially keep an eye out for videos coming from Kingsbury Grade

 

Loved my K02's, did well in everything but the mud, but that could have been the FSB i was running.

 

I'm sure there will be plenty of people saying that the 3PMS isn't needed. These people will also live where there's no snow.

 

Where I live, winter is a combination of freezing rain and lots of wet snow. I pay careful attention to snow tire reviews and buy the best or second best reviewed dedicated snow tire. I would have went with a studded tires, but they are banned here.

 

10% or 12% better depending on test tire size. Bulletin straight from the tire manufacturer's association: https://www.ustires.org/system/files/files/2024-09/TISB 37 No 6.pdf

Since it's a trade association of tire manufacturers coming up with their own standard, the bar is set very low so everybody is a winner.

 

I have well over a decade of experience in severe snow and ice with both BFG AT KOs and Duratracs across 1/2 dozen vehicles. Both are excellent in my opinion. The two comments that I'll make are 1) Duractracs are the longest lasting AT tire I have ever encountered (75k+ miles on my wife's last Silverado), and 2) The BFGs hold and throw gravel like no one's business.

I just put Toyo OC AT3's on my new 4R (because they were on sale and had a rebate) and have had it in two heavy snow events so far.... very good initial impressions. My one comment on the Toyos..... they are loud as shit. Noticeably loud as shit.

 

I m going to need new tires some time next year and I’ve been doing A LOT of research on what would suit me best.
It’s nearly impossible to make a decision based on people reviews because some swear by tire X over Y, while others say the complete opposite. So it’s hard to make myself an opinion.
I wish I could put each brand on my truck for a week before making a decision.


https://www.reddit.com/r/4Runner/comments/173flre/whatever_happened_to_goodyear_duratracs/?rdt=60875

 

It's weird how I had a set of ko2s that had excellent tread wear and were pretty good in most conditions. And, I also know several people still using them and satisfied. But, there's always a handful of internet people calling them garbage.

 

Without watching the video or reading every comment, I'll add my $0.02...

I've had good luck with 3PMSF tires, but I assume it’s partially because I read reviews and choose tires based on actual user ratings.

A 3PMSF symbol doesn't automatically make a tire great for winter. And, a 3PMSF all terrain is not going to perform like a true winter tire.

Simply put: don't just assume that a 3 peak tire is going to perform well in winter. Look at reviews and adjust your expectations accordingly.

 

Did anyone actually watch the video? Just curious what it says.

 

It calls the peak rating a sham since it has to beat some old tire by 10% to qualify.

 

Or very deep snow, in which case 42" Swampers are better, like on this Tacoma

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Ngf_LpBvJ/

 

Thanks!

Seems like any half decent Tire these days would beat most older designs in snow performance.

 

Interesting video but overly redundant. I learned winter driving during brutal midwestern snow storms back in the 70’s when all we had was rear wheel drive and mediocre tires. Yet we managed to get from point A to point B without ending up in a ditch. If you can’t get around with 4wd and decent tires then maybe it’s time to get a Uber.

 

Well that was fun.

 

Have Toyo OC AT3, 255/80/17. Havent hit any show yet, good to hear.

 

I used to have a pair of tiger paws on my old 1994 yota pick up

 

The Gold Standard!