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Upcoming Tariffs

Discussion in 'General 4Runner Talk' started by Rick G., Nov 27, 2024.

  1. Nov 27, 2024 at 8:51 AM
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    Rick G.

    Rick G. [OP] Member since July, 2020

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    I wonder what imported vehicle buyers are going to do if and when the supposed tariffs start becoming enforced. Vehicles like the Mexico Tacomas are already over-priced as it is. And what about the 4RUNNERS.

    You can bet Toyota isn’t just going to eat the cost of those tariffs. They will be passed on to Tacoma and 4RUNNER buyers.

    And what about vehicles that arrive in the country or are already setting on dealer’s lots before the tariffs kick in? Are they going to be “grandfathered in” and have tariffs added to them as well? (They shouldn’t be, but what to you wanna bet they will be?)

    Who is going to be able to afford these over-priced vehicles with tariff costs being passed on to the American consumer on top of that?
     
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  2. Nov 27, 2024 at 3:56 PM
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  3. Nov 27, 2024 at 4:11 PM
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    Noodles

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    They can’t impose tariffs on vehicles already on the ground. Until tariffs are signed into law, these are just empty promises, threats, or negotiation tactics. The EU has been charging a 10% tariff on American cars for years, and nothing has changed. Overpriced vehicles? Think again! Car prices in the USA are among the lowest globally. If prices go up, it’s time to focus on increasing your income.
     
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  4. Nov 27, 2024 at 4:33 PM
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    Here we go...might as well mention your favorite oil brand and change interval.
     
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  5. Nov 27, 2024 at 4:34 PM
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    FourBelugas

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    How much have 4Runner prices increased since 2019? People still pay over MSRP for them some way or other.

    At this point the US made Ranger is a better truck than the 4th gen taco anyway. Toyota is the only midsize maker that does not make the trucks in the US.
     
  6. Nov 27, 2024 at 4:41 PM
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    whippersnapper02

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    I want a pickup again and that 2.7 ecopoop has me looking.
     
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  7. Nov 27, 2024 at 5:05 PM
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    FourBelugas

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    the 2.3 EcoBoost has been a solid motor with very little issues, I would give it a serious look.
     
  8. Nov 27, 2024 at 5:19 PM
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    2.3 4 popper but now they offer the 2.7 V6 ecopoop as well. Also the Frontier still has a V6 and made here.
     
  9. Nov 27, 2024 at 5:40 PM
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    SR5 Limited

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    The Twin-Turbo V-6 is being put in the Explorer. I road in the Navigator its like 480hp. Prob pay a carbon tax included in the price?
     
  10. Nov 27, 2024 at 5:53 PM
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    steelevo

    steelevo Not so new anymore...

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    Welcome to the world of trickle down economics, aka the middle working class will always get f@*!%d with no lube.
     
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  11. Nov 27, 2024 at 5:54 PM
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    But, he is getting the new new Navigator so have to wait and see.
     
  12. Nov 27, 2024 at 5:56 PM
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    icebear

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    Plenty of speculation, I’ve stocked up on some near-future consumables and bumped up a couple purchases but as far as vehicles are concerned, there’s nothing to stop dealers from taking advantage with their own markup if a solid chunk of vehicles - even competitors - are tariffed.

    There’s a lot of bluster, some potentially “illegal” or contradicting existing law so ultimately we will have to see what happens as many interests would not want to set off a trade war.
     
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  13. Nov 27, 2024 at 5:59 PM
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    Pretty sure i read the tariffs are on TRUCKS. TRUCKS coming into the US.
    I am sure there will be some sort of a "ping" on the small cars and 4R and other things shipped in from Japan but i was pretty confident the whole tariff thing was on the trucks. This was to keep people like Toyota and GM and Ford from making their best selling models out of the country. This was an incentive to get them to make plants in the US or face a hefty fee for producing them elsewhere.
     
  14. Nov 27, 2024 at 6:01 PM
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    oohhhhh

    IMG_7698.jpg
     
  15. Nov 27, 2024 at 6:07 PM
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    The middle working class will get by just fine with 28k Camry made in Kentucky or a 29k Rav4 made in Canada, no tariff in sight.

    If people struggling to pay bills are over-extending themselves to buy 45-70k trucks and SUVs to commute and drive the kids to school, that's up to them to make it work.
     
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  16. Nov 27, 2024 at 6:10 PM
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    Im buying my mom's house off of my sisters. I heard the interest rates dropped? If I get it I can make like $200k and clear a new 4R?
     
  17. Nov 27, 2024 at 6:39 PM
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    Oh Canada is on the list.
     
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  18. Nov 27, 2024 at 6:53 PM
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    The Fed has cut the interbank rate a couple of times but mortgage rates have actually gone up since. They are tied more to 10-year treasury yields.
     
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  19. Nov 27, 2024 at 7:08 PM
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    cuse93

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    The threat of tariffs is the means to get Mexico to step-up with regards to border......which they will. The president of Mexico is already kissing the ring.
     
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  20. Nov 27, 2024 at 7:22 PM
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    You can always buy an American-made Toyota :p This thing has the same engine as 6th gen, with more interior room and smoother ride :p

    [​IMG]
     
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    Lucky for them the 32k Rav4 Hybrid is made in TMMKentucky.
     
  22. Nov 27, 2024 at 7:23 PM
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    That's crazy talk, buying a 4Runner and a Tacoma is now a human right according to the internet
     
  23. Nov 27, 2024 at 7:25 PM
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    No one is throwing you in jail for buying a 4Runner. Just need to pay more.
     
  24. Nov 27, 2024 at 7:33 PM
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    Not if demand shoots up farther past supply and the dealer marks up US-made models to match. The factories here will have the exact same capacity they had prior to the election and take the same amount of inputs per vehicle, which might also be imported.
     
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    Thankfully 4Runner and Tacoma prices have stayed so steady last 4 years thanks to lack of tariffs and dealers have been so cool about not charging markups. Whew.
     
  26. Nov 28, 2024 at 3:33 AM
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    Sellers can ask whatever price they wish. If the sellers can’t afford to accept an offer their investment sits idle waiting for a buyer that can pay or they lower the profitability of imported cars.
    Buyers can offer whatever price they want. If no one will accept the offer the buyer will have to increase the offer or buy something else, the intent being buy American. Neither side is obligated to accommodate the other.
     
  27. Nov 28, 2024 at 6:34 AM
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    Maybe the big 3 can start building quality stuff that people want to buy. Seems like the issue would solve itself.
     
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    That’s the biggest goal of these tariffs, get Americans to buy American again, and stop the illegal stuff from coming in.
     
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    I get that, but lately there has been some real junk being pushed out. Doesn’t make me want to buy any of it.
     
  30. Nov 28, 2024 at 7:17 AM
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    I'm not sure how that works if American cars aren't necessarily made in America.
     
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