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5th Gen Limited - Replace XREAS with Bilstein 4600 or 5100

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Toydb, Oct 23, 2024.

  1. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:06 AM
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    Toydb

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    Hello,
    Need to replace my leaking XREAS shocks/struts on my 2018 Limited. Likely to remove XREAS and get Bilstein 4600s or 5100s. Will keep stock springs, wheels and tires. Primarily city/highway driver with occasional light trail/towing.

    Can anyone share their experience with replacing the XREAS units with either of the Bilsteins in terms of ride and handling?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:14 AM
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    I did not like the Bilstien5100 ride quality on my Limited. But not too bad.

    I like Ironman FCP ride quality better. I set 2¼in lift front and 1½ spring in the back.
    No personal experience but highend suspension like Kings, OME BP51, Dobinson MRR, Fox2.5 would give decent ride comfort as well.
     
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  3. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:23 AM
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    Thank you. Sounds like you may have experienced what appears others have with the 5100s - they are a bit on the too firm side as compared with the XREAS?
     
  4. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:27 AM
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    To me XREAS were the best for on road.
    With Bilstien5100 the rear ride control was not to my taste. For example when I go over a speed bump faster the rear was hash. Vs Ironman FCP it absorbs smoothly and releases smoothly (relatively).
     
  5. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:30 AM
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    Got it. Will consider the Ironman's. Thanks again for the insight!
     
  6. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:36 AM
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    Just beware, many say even though Ironman are Australian company they are made in China. So reliability may not be as good. Since my Limited is our pavement princes I cannot speak for reliability.

    Search on this forum and look into other options as well. I mean learn about other options and then make a decision without buying Ironman immediately. The best suspension I had was ELKA 2.5DC. Since that 4Runner got into an accident and no more have it I cannot speak for reliability of ELKA as well.

    This is the details of the kit and setting I used if that helps -
    https://youtu.be/Xrp-LYkTLf8?feature=shared
     
  7. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:42 AM
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    Cool! Thanks.
     
  8. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:45 AM
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    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

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    If you post your location, you might hear from a member you could look up for a Bilstein-equipped 4R test drive.

    Just out of curiosity - weren't you looking at replacing your XREAS back in January 2020? Nothing done since then, I take it?
     
  9. Oct 23, 2024 at 10:56 AM
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    Yes, was considering replacing and doing a mild lift, larger tires, etc. but decided to replace when needed. Well the "when needed" is now given the XREAS struts have started to leak at about 98K and ride has deteriorated. Also, decided best to keep it near stock given the reality that my driving habits.
     
  10. Oct 23, 2024 at 11:08 AM
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    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

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    Gotcha. If you were here, you could check out the Eibach ride.
     
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    Another option you may want to consider would be Dobinson's. I removed the XREAS from my Limited earlier this year and went with a C59-300/C59-599 combo for springs (1.8" FR, 1.2"RR) with their standard twin tube struts/shocks. Ride is great - added just enough firmness without being harsh.
     
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    @MTBVRF when you get a chance... could you post a pic of your truck. That system/lift sounds pretty good.
     
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    Yes. I realize I'll loose the benefits of the XREAS system but the units are leaking after 95K and the ride has deterioated so it's time to replace them.
     
  14. Oct 23, 2024 at 3:25 PM
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    Another point to keep in mind, aftermarket shock may not last long as your XREAS did. They would need rebuilding.Below some service intervals for King, Fox, Dobinson shocks.

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    Can you add Eibach or Bilstein without adding lift? My 4Runner is already tall enough to get in/out.
     
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    Yes. Both have no lift options. Bilstein 4600s are no-lift/stock height. Bilstein 5100s, and Eibachs, are adjustable but have a zero lift setting.
     
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    And which one gives me the Porsche feeling? :D I’m kidding.
     
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    Here you go. Probably have around 3,000-4,000 miles on the setup. No complaints at all - my use consists of highways, around town, and dirt roads/fire roads to find trails.
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    That looks great - perfect amount of lift for 265s or 285s
     
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    I did the 6112s in the front and 5100s in the back (didn’t want to figure out the reservoir of the 5160s). Also added wheelers rear lift springs and OME UCAs. Added about 2” of lift to clear the 285s and I love it. That’s been my suspension for about 3 years now and I would definitely recommend as a great bang for your buck if replacing the xreas.
     

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