1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

2021 Daytime Running Lights

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Red Jed, Sep 20, 2024.

  1. Sep 20, 2024 at 6:23 PM
    #1
    Red Jed

    Red Jed [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2023
    Member:
    #34894
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    21 4Runner
    I’m looking to change out daytime running light bulbs on my 21. Is this easy to do and what bulb is recommended. Is this just a plug and play mod.
     
  2. Sep 20, 2024 at 6:25 PM
    #2
    Imdav2u

    Imdav2u Living and dying in three quarter time.

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2024
    Member:
    #41056
    Messages:
    173
    I live in the most hated state in America
    Vehicle:
    23 TRD PRO
    Which trim do you have?
     
  3. Sep 20, 2024 at 7:40 PM
    #3
    icebear

    icebear Recovered Kia Owner

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2023
    Member:
    #36091
    Messages:
    1,000
    Vehicle:
    2021 Toyota 4Runner SR5
    And what are you intending to change them too?

    If halogen to LED i’m pretty sure it’s not a direct swap as I believe they’ll become seizure specials with LED’s in a straight swap
     
  4. Sep 20, 2024 at 7:58 PM
    #4
    Red Jed

    Red Jed [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2023
    Member:
    #34894
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    21 4Runner
    It’s a 21 SR5 Premium. The headlights and High Beams are LED but the DRL aren’t ( they look yellow) I kinda wanted to switch them to LED.i don’t really understand what you mean a seizure swap ?? I’ve been looking it on YouTube and it gets confusing cause I hear they say as high beams and then I see videos where it’s just a bulb swap ( halogen to led) thanks again
     
  5. Sep 20, 2024 at 8:56 PM
    #5
    Imdav2u

    Imdav2u Living and dying in three quarter time.

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2024
    Member:
    #41056
    Messages:
    173
    I live in the most hated state in America
    Vehicle:
    23 TRD PRO
    If your headlights are led then your drl's are 6 volt bulbs. If you want led bulbs for drl's you have to add a cable. I just did mine and have an extra cable if you want it. You plug it into the passenger side cable and ground the extra wire. You will want to get low lumin bulbs so you don't blind people .

    20240917_185116.jpg
     
  6. Sep 21, 2024 at 4:36 AM
    #6
    Kezin

    Kezin New Member I guess?

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2022
    Member:
    #28498
    Messages:
    504
    Gender:
    Male
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 and ‘17 Limiteds
    The 2021 Limited and Pro have bi-LEDs. All other 2021 trims have LED lows and halogen highs. This means your DRLs are combined with high beams and the halogens are dimmed via PWM, not hooking the halogens up in series like the Limited and Pro and all 2022-2024 trims. You need to find LEDs that work with 2014-2020 model years
     
    icebear and Imdav2u like this.
  7. Sep 21, 2024 at 8:58 AM
    #7
    Strongarm

    Strongarm New Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2024
    Member:
    #40320
    Messages:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 4Runner
    You can save $ by buying halogen bulbs. Look for 5000K for color temp to match the LED low beam.
    Hella makes yellow halogens.
    I have amber 9005 bulbs in my lights. I only use the DRL during dusk and dawn.
     
  8. Sep 21, 2024 at 12:03 PM
    #8
    Red Jed

    Red Jed [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2023
    Member:
    #34894
    Messages:
    26
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    21 4Runner
    Why would Toyota put both halogen and LED bulbs in it. Seems redundant,to have a mix, just put all LED. I’ve already switched over all my interior to led. Do you have links or part numbers and where to get them to the wire and bulbs you used. Is it an easy switch? Thanks
     
  9. Sep 21, 2024 at 12:30 PM
    #9
    TeslasBigCarbonFootprint

    TeslasBigCarbonFootprint New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2022
    Member:
    #25462
    Messages:
    532
    Southern California
    Vehicle:
    '23 TRD ORP Super Ice Cap White
    2014 Neglected by the previous owners 2020 is an abused former rental... 2023 New I've been buying above my pay grade ☹️
    I have tried putting numerous LED bulbs in there. Since Toyota went with the two lights being in series, each bulb is the getting half the voltage. Most LED systems can only go down to 9 volts. I did look at motorcycle lights that would normally be at 6 volts, but I can't find the right size in an LED arrangement. In an LED arrangement

    I tried to put in a halogen that had a blue sheathing on it to create a more white light, but it was extremely weak. They are the bulbs are HB3 and you can get them on Amazon for around $15. Again, a weak light on a sunny day, but may be sufficient for what you need and your traffic conditions. I'm in Southern California, a lot of distracted drivers and plain old bad drivers are on the road.

    I was actually online today to link my video somewhere else, but I've added this to draw more attention while on the road...

    https://youtu.be/2vdVHOCbJA8
     
  10. Sep 21, 2024 at 9:52 PM
    #10
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    5,432
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s
    I thought the halogens run at 6v for low beam, but switch to 12v for high beam (using the same bulb). Wouldn’t putting a LED bulb in there and wiring to 12v mean your DRL would become high beam all the time?
     
  11. Sep 21, 2024 at 10:06 PM
    #11
    TeslasBigCarbonFootprint

    TeslasBigCarbonFootprint New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2022
    Member:
    #25462
    Messages:
    532
    Southern California
    Vehicle:
    '23 TRD ORP Super Ice Cap White
    2014 Neglected by the previous owners 2020 is an abused former rental... 2023 New I've been buying above my pay grade ☹️
    When they switched to LED low beams, they Incorporated their projection lens system with a gate.

    Low and high beam is now operated in that projector lens. Those have a physical gate that flips inside the unit The single LED light source is used for both low and high settings.

    The old high beam is strictly a DRL now. It is Toyota being cheap. They could easily do automatic headlights, but noooooo. Probably because they didn't want to any do anything more than the minimum waiting for the 6th generation to do an actual redesign.
     
  12. Sep 21, 2024 at 11:31 PM
    #12
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    5,432
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s
    I don’t have the mechanical shutter gate high beam. On my 21 4runner (Off Road trim) the low beam is LED, and the high beam is halogen, and it’s the same halogen bulb that is used for DRL.

    I believe the bi-LED headlights with the mechanical gate for high beams started on the 22 model year 4runners across all trims.

    So if the OP switches the halogen to LED, it probably won’t work on DRL mode, because it’s 6 volt.

    A kit was mentioned here to rewire the bulb for 12 volts, but wouldn’t that mean the whatever replacement LED he puts in there will only function as high beams?
     
    icebear likes this.
  13. Sep 21, 2024 at 11:47 PM
    #13
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    5,432
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s
    Toyota probably did that because it cheaper, I’d guess. However, having a halogen high beam on top of the LED low beam also resulted in the best headlight I’ve ever experienced when high beams are on.

    I’ve driven some newer highlanders with the Bi-LED headights and have been severely unimpressed by the shutter gate high beam. No change in light intensity, it just unmasks the low beam so the light falls further ahead. The result was a pretty gray monochromatic and dreary, and absolutely dim by comparison to the 21 4runner headlights. To be fair though I’m not sure if newer 4runners with
    bi-LEDs are as dim as the highlander’s though.

    While I really dislike the sharp cutoff on my LED low beams, the headlights are amazing when the halogen high beam is added to the mix. Very bright, and the incandescent color of the halogens on top of the cold LED color makes it easier to perceive what is far ahead.. It makes the experience much easier on the eyes in dark road conditions.
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2024
    2Toys likes this.
  14. Sep 22, 2024 at 4:51 AM
    #14
    Kezin

    Kezin New Member I guess?

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2022
    Member:
    #28498
    Messages:
    504
    Gender:
    Male
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 and ‘17 Limiteds
    The kit will do nothing for OP. That kit is for the bi-LED headlights to take the halogen DRLs that are wired in series (6V) and change them to parallel (12V). The headlights with a combined DRL and high beam (2014-2020, and select 2021 trims - which OP and you both have) you will just be shorting the positive to ground and blowing fuses over and over. The vehicle is rapidly pulsing the halogen bulb from 12V to 0V and back. With a halogen, that results in bulbs that light up similarly to being constantly supplied 6V. With LEDs, you’re going to get bulbs that flash with the PWM signal.

    I believe VLEDs makes a bulb that works for DRL and high beam
     
    Strongarm likes this.
  15. Sep 22, 2024 at 5:22 AM
    #15
    Borracho Loco

    Borracho Loco My 4Runner identifies as a Prius!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2023
    Member:
    #35824
    Messages:
    2,483
    Gender:
    Male
    Dallas/Ft Worth
    Vehicle:
    2023 40th Anniversary Special Edition
    Oooh look, another mod.....
    I drive with my headlights always on. No need to worry about the crappy DRL issue. I also swapped out my turn signal/cornering light, so it's SUPER bright now. If you think the DRL is a joke, look at the turn signal. It's a bulb. A 5watt halogen bulb. Yeah, the kind you'd find in a 1984 Chevy.

    STOCK:



    IMG_0352.jpg



    AFTERMARKET BULB:






    IMG_0355.jpg
     
  16. Sep 22, 2024 at 9:37 AM
    #16
    HazOpRed

    HazOpRed 22' TRDOR

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2022
    Member:
    #30288
    Messages:
    294
    Gender:
    Male
    I have some random auxbeam led in my drl. No issues on my 22'
     
  17. Sep 22, 2024 at 9:52 AM
    #17
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    5,432
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s
    Very nice. Does that actually cast a fair amount of light to the sides? I need to look into something like this, since the factory LEDS headlights are too bright in very dark conditions, to the point you it’s a black hole anywhere it’s not directly lit. Anything to the sides when making a left turn is pitch black. Ideally, I’d like an amber bulb with that amount of brightness.
     
    2Toys likes this.
  18. Sep 22, 2024 at 9:56 AM
    #18
    Borracho Loco

    Borracho Loco My 4Runner identifies as a Prius!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2023
    Member:
    #35824
    Messages:
    2,483
    Gender:
    Male
    Dallas/Ft Worth
    Vehicle:
    2023 40th Anniversary Special Edition
    Oooh look, another mod.....

    Yes, yes it does. It's also a switchback, so it's white in "normal" mode and turns amber when I use my turn signal.

     
    McSpazatron[QUOTED] likes this.
  19. Sep 22, 2024 at 10:01 AM
    #19
    Imdav2u

    Imdav2u Living and dying in three quarter time.

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2024
    Member:
    #41056
    Messages:
    173
    I live in the most hated state in America
    Vehicle:
    23 TRD PRO
    I installed the same lights in mine, thanks to your post. They work great.
     
    Borracho Loco[QUOTED] likes this.
  20. Sep 22, 2024 at 10:08 AM
    #20
    2Toys

    2Toys Imperial Star Cruiser

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2020
    Member:
    #15337
    Messages:
    1,637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gordon
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2019 4Runner TRDORP
    I had a flashback as soon as I saw this! (Mostly because I'm old!!) This kind of reminded me of the Cylons on Battlestar Galactica. (Now you know I'm really old!)
     
  21. Sep 22, 2024 at 10:25 AM
    #21
    2Toys

    2Toys Imperial Star Cruiser

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2020
    Member:
    #15337
    Messages:
    1,637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gordon
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2019 4Runner TRDORP
    I don't know how many years ago, probably decades, but some "higher end" cars, such as Caddys & Buicks (probably others) when the turn signal was used to signal a turn, there was a white light on the side, on the fender under the side marker light that would illuminate the path of the turn direction. I thought that was a good thing. I didn't realize until now that those have been gone from cars for a long time. But it would have helped with the black hole that you are referring to.
     
  22. Sep 22, 2024 at 10:43 AM
    #22
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    5,432
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s
    That’s exactly what I want. I remember those cornering lights. But even back then they were for options for the higher end cars. Nowadays I think they try to integrate that into the headlight, to varying degrees of success.
     
    2Toys[QUOTED] likes this.
  23. Sep 22, 2024 at 11:39 AM
    #23
    Borracho Loco

    Borracho Loco My 4Runner identifies as a Prius!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2023
    Member:
    #35824
    Messages:
    2,483
    Gender:
    Male
    Dallas/Ft Worth
    Vehicle:
    2023 40th Anniversary Special Edition
    Oooh look, another mod.....

    Ahh yes. "Fender Markers". You aaaaaaaaaaare old if you remember this (but what does that say about me for remembering it too!). Yeah, they were on the higher end Caddy's, Lincoln's, Chryslers. Those cars also had the opera lights. The lights on the B or C pillar.
     
    2Toys[QUOTED] likes this.
  24. Sep 22, 2024 at 11:51 AM
    #24
    2Toys

    2Toys Imperial Star Cruiser

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2020
    Member:
    #15337
    Messages:
    1,637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gordon
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2019 4Runner TRDORP
    Yep. I am an expert level Old Fart!! :D
     
  25. Sep 22, 2024 at 12:08 PM
    #25
    Bagman

    Bagman Dental Floss Tycoon

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2024
    Member:
    #38869
    Messages:
    211
    Gender:
    Male
    Georgia
    Vehicle:
    Barcelona Red Tacoma / MGM SR5 Premium 4Runner
  26. Sep 22, 2024 at 1:32 PM
    #26
    Imdav2u

    Imdav2u Living and dying in three quarter time.

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2024
    Member:
    #41056
    Messages:
    173
    I live in the most hated state in America
    Vehicle:
    23 TRD PRO
    We rented a Grand Wagoneer yesterday, a light comes on depending on which way you are turning.
     
    2Toys[QUOTED] likes this.
  27. Sep 22, 2024 at 1:36 PM
    #27
    2Toys

    2Toys Imperial Star Cruiser

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2020
    Member:
    #15337
    Messages:
    1,637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gordon
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2019 4Runner TRDORP
    There you go, that's what I'm talking about. I don't seem to see them very much anywhere.
     
  28. Sep 22, 2024 at 1:39 PM
    #28
    Imdav2u

    Imdav2u Living and dying in three quarter time.

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2024
    Member:
    #41056
    Messages:
    173
    I live in the most hated state in America
    Vehicle:
    23 TRD PRO
    For $125k you can have them again.
     
  29. Sep 22, 2024 at 1:45 PM
    #29
    2Toys

    2Toys Imperial Star Cruiser

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2020
    Member:
    #15337
    Messages:
    1,637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gordon
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2019 4Runner TRDORP
    Ha ha! Yeah... no, not if I would have to have that piece of :bananadead: No thanks. I have never owned a Chrysler / Dodge / Stellantis product, and I never will. Pure garbage.
     
    Imdav2u[QUOTED] likes this.

Products Discussed in

To Top