Icon Stage 5 shocks and struts

Paid $4500 for stage 5 Icons front and back and only used them for 2 weeks before totaling my 4 runner.
So, if anyone is looking for some and close to Phoenix, AZ let me know, I'll give you a good deal.

Discount tire didn't secure my tire and it literally fell off on the freeway. But bcuz 1 wheel stud was missing they wouldn't take responsibility. I was pregnant at the time, but all went well with that.
One wheel stud isn't going to cause the tire to fall off.

 

Dang B, sounds like a rough ride there for a while. hope things get ironed out.

 

Thank you. All good now. Was thinking about putting the icons on my Tacoma, but the back is different and not trying to modify the back of my Tacoma. So. Will just sell them and take the hit.

 

The fronts would swap, just gotta get new rear shocks or have someone swap the lower bushings. The Tacomas do well with an add-a-leaf in the back to get a little more height and weight handling capability.
Best of luck to you.

 

Reply, yes, thank you. Would the add a leaf help if my current leaf is shot or should I just get a new rear leaf and go with the 5100 bilstiens? I don't really want a 3 inch lift on my Tacoma bcuz it's too hard to get into my truck. I'm 5ft 2. A 2 inch lift is good. But 3 is just at the awkward height for me.
I didn't realize when I bought the icons they would have to be serviced at 60,000 miles. I don't do enough off roading for that, kind of a waste, if someone else can use them that does off-road often.

 

I've also got total chaos front control arms. Could I use those with 5100s?

 

Yeah the TC UCA help get the ball joint in a better angle when you’re lifted so you can get the alignment within specs. When you go too high you’ll get the front suspension geometry out of whack to the point you can’t get the caster in line for the alignment. You can use the TC UCA with just a set of 5100 it won’t hurt anything. They may not be necessary, but it certainly won’t hurt to have them.

There are some year model Tacoma’s that got a service bulletin for springs to change out the rears. The rears would sag and invert, and Toyota had a “fix” of replacing the rear springs with new ones that had more arch.
Adding an add-a-leaf will help get the arch back into old flattened springs but if your springs are sacked out you may not get as much lift as advertised. I normally always do add-a-leaf because I tow a small trailer around with ATV and other stuff so I like mine to not squat when I load it with a little stuff. The add-a-leaf gives you some lift as well as more weight handling capacity. It keeps the springs from sagging as much with a certain amount of weight in the bed.

 

If they were the last ones to touch the tires and it fell off it's their fault.

The wheel can stay on indefinitely with a couple lugs missing so long as of the 6, 2 directly across from each other.

However if they failed to put 1 lug on then what else did they fail to do? If they were truly the last ones to touch the wheels, then they clearly forgot to torque them on cause the "wheel off" as we call it.

I used to work at that company. We had wheel off's. It happened. We caused them. (By we I mean the company. I don't think my store had any while I was there. But we heard about other stores causing them)

If no one else touched this car after them, they caused it. Call corporate and tell them if they don't take responsibility and get you a new car and pay for the suspension to be put on the new car you're going to lawyer up, and mind you this was an incredibly traumatic experience. You thought both you and your unborn baby were going to die.

Call corporate.

If you're talking to the store they are probably terrified they will lose their jobs and are hoping you'll drop it. Someone should lose their job over this. Clearly people weren't trained properly and/or didn't follow procedures which managers need to maintain.

They could have killed you. Or worse. Left you alive and horrendously and permanently damaged.

 

That's what I thought too! Totalled the truck, I ended up rolling it and it did a nose dive, slide into the guard rail. They were definitely the last ones to touch it. It was only one stud too! That was corporate that said, nope, not our responsibility, you should've had the wheel stud replaced as we advised. Been a minute already, just now getting around to parting out the truck though.

Thank you so much for the advise on the suspension. That makes sense.

 

...and the suspension wasn't damaged in the roll-over nose-dive into a guardrail total loss?

 

Not at all, neither was the engine or transmission. Only the front bumper and radiator. Amazingly enough, but it bent the frame. Glass didn't even break, until the tow truck got ahold of it.

 

I still have the engine, transmission and transfer case. Would be ideal for a 4x4 conversation on another 4runner or a Tacoma. I have a Tacoma too, but don't want to go through the hassle of the conversation on my Tacoma. I'm too old and not strong enough anymore to do it myself. 15 years ago, I would've done it though.

 

It's their fault. Of course they don't want to pay for it.

Make a big stink with corporate.

But you might need to lawyer up.

 

The vehicle owner declined to have a broken wheel stud replaced. 100% on the vehicle owner. I guarantee the shop has this in writing. No lawyer would touch that. The shop covered their butt on paper, customer declined.

 

We have 6 lugs not because we need to but because it provides redundancy. The shop caused this, unless they weren't the last to touch it.

I changed tires all day long missing a lug and sometimes two. At this company.

I clearly couldn't disagree with you more.

 

6 lugs for redundancy? I'm pretty sure Toyota designed this vehicle to be running 6 lugs at all times. Not 5. Otherwise we would all just have 2 lug nuts on every vehicle, per your logic. SMH.

 

No you wouldn't want 2 because that doesn't give even pressure. You'd want at least 3, but really 4 mininum.

 

Wow. And you used to install wheels/tires? I'm blown away by your responses.

Some vehicles have 4 bolt pattern. Some 5. Some 6. Some 8. The lighter the vehicle weight and intended purpose dictates the engineer's decision on what that vehicle needs.

A 90's honda civic that weighs 2k pounds only needs 4 lugs. A super duty ford diesel gets 8 lug nuts.

Some heavier vehicles might have less lugs, but get a much larger diameter stud and lug nut. For instance my Land Cruiser has only 5 lugs, it is a much heavier vehicle than a Tacoma. Those 5 studs are much thicker than a Tacoma though, hence more strength.

 

And if you lose a stud the wheel immediately falls off if you drive at all?

 

No, but you should immediately replace it.

 

No? so when's it going to fall off? a mile later? 2 miles? when?

Obviously it would be best to immediately replace it. Just do a google search. Tons of stories of people going a very long time missing a lug. That's why we have 5 and 6 lugs. So you don't have to immediately get towed if one breaks.