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TRD Pro wheel torque spec?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by wolfman, Aug 21, 2022.

  1. Aug 21, 2022 at 5:09 PM
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    wolfman

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    I can't finds a definitive answer! Is it 85, 76, 83? Google tells me all different answers! Anyone know for certain? Sorry. Love yoo.
     
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    It is 76 ft lbs
     
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    76. But do tightened to 85 when you start using aftermarket wheels and tuner lug nuts, you need more torque to compensate conical lug nut torque friction loss
     
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    I asked the same question and was told by my dealership that they consider the pro rims as aftermarket and torque to the higher spec of 85 ft lbs.
     
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    Why does a different rim matter ?
     
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    No clue.
     
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    Thank you!

    Stock wheels, so 76 I guess. Thanks!

    Awesome. Thank you

    But they're aluminum. Ugh. Dealers always giving out different info. Yikes.
     
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    The TRD Pro wheels should still be classified as Factory/OEM wheels because they use this type of lug nuts

    Screen Shot 2022-08-25 at 4.24.22 PM.jpg

    torque spec set by the manufacturer has nothing to do with the wheel's property itself, only 2 factors affect the lug nut torque:
    1. wheel studs dimension
    2. lug nut style
    Toyota set 76 lbft for 4Runner's application using above lug nuts.
    Almost all other aftermarket wheels use tapered lug nuts like these

    Screen Shot 2022-08-25 at 4.30.43 PM.jpg

    these 60-degree tapered lug nuts, apply less clamping force when compared to OEM style lug nuts, even torqued to the same spec.

    Thus 85 lbft instead of owner's manual's 76 to get closer to the same clamping force between the wheel and the rotor.

    If the dealership wants to torque those TRD Pro wheels lug nuts to 85, sure, not going to harm anything in my opinion, it's when they torque it higher than 100 lbft and you might see studs elongation that weakens the studs.
     
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    Would rather NOT have them set at Higher Torque than the Toyota Specs because I have a Pair of TRD Pro Rims gave to me that were Warped from either or both Over Torque / Incorrect pattern or Slammed down with Impact Wrench. I took em because I thought I could get them corrected and use as spares but now they are going to become bar stool bases since they are that bad.
     
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    Don't let any dealership or tire shop mount the wheels, they all use air tools, which definitely shoot over 100 lbft.
    I invested a 3 ton jack just to do my own tire rotation, worth it if you like to have control over everything.

    Unfortunately, I still have to go to Discount Tire for mounting and balancing tires, they do a good job and I still slip a $20 bill to the technician just to make sure extra care is taken not to scratch the wheels. I'll then load the balanced tires/wheels to my truck and mount to the 4Runner at home.
     
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    Well I am Certainly not going to Let Any dealership do any work on my Toyotas because I Do that work myself with another person (Only on Toyota) and only Project type work on Weekends early Toyota's are a Fav like the ones a Dealership will scoff at
     
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    I’m pretty sure my dealership torques my Pro rims to 85 Ft lbs.
     
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    So for the TRD PRO rims 76?
     
  16. Aug 17, 2024 at 1:29 PM
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    Depend on the year. :p https://www.4runners.com/threads/lugnut-torque-spec.34870/



    This started in 2015. 2014 and prior manuals didn't have the lower torque for aluminum wheels.

    I checked the GX manuals and it's the same. Lugnut torque went from 83 ft-lb in 2014 to 76 ft-lb in 2015.

    Of course professional technicians will just pick the yellow torque stick and give it 3 ugga-duggas.
     
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    The TRD Pro wheels are known to have a short center bore recess that fits only the 4Runner. I suspect yours were previously attempted to be installed on a different Toyota model (like a Tacoma). The method of tightening lugnuts would have been immaterial in this case - manual tightening with a torque wrench would have also warped the wheel.

    Overtorquing doesn't harm the wheel. Worst case it breaks a stud. On other cars with thin hubs or aluminum hubs, the hub can be warped.
     
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    I just looked at the pamphlet that comes in the box with each Pro wheel and it says 83 ft lbs .
     
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    Do you have a picture? That’s strange because the owner’s manual states 76 for aluminum wheels
     
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    Each wheel comes with this pamphlet in the box .IMG_0580.jpg IMG_0581.jpg IMG_0580.jpg IMG_0581.jpg
     
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    this is what I was going to post. Vehicle owner manual says aluminum at 76 while the pamphlet that comes with the Pro wheel says 83.
     
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    Strange. I figured it would say 83 thinking you’d have to use the OE non pro lug nut which are conical. But the instructions clearly state to use the flat pro lug nut and NOT the conical. Which from my understanding the lower 76 torque number was due to the flat nuts.
    Sorry I can’t be more helpful
     
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    7 ft lbs difference isn’t much so either one probably works just fine . Heck split the difference and go 80.
     
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    That's what I do. Set it at 80 and call it good
     
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    our 24 calls out 76 lbs....
     
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    THe lugnuts have a different seat contact area. Aftermarket are more conical in their seal to the rim, where as stock is slightly flatter. Effects torque application due to different contact patch.
     
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    Agreed. Splitting hairs. My owners manual also says 76 ft lbs for factory off road rims and 83 ft lbs for the Trd non pro rims. What's more important though is that you recheck the wheel nut torque after 100 miles or so. Any tire shop shop will tell you this. Especially with aluminium rims. They can loosen after they fully seat.
     
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    Next year will be interesting, when Toyota switches to beefier 14mm studs.
     
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    It means 2010 forward on the 4R and 2007 forward on the FJ .
    Or in other words 2010 and up . That’s why it shows 2010- .
     
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    Yes. I have the factory bronze non pro TRD wheels for '22 and the pamphlet that came with them shows the same. 2010 and up.
     

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