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EMP survivability?

Discussion in '2nd Gen 4Runners (1990-1995)' started by TonyKarter, May 16, 2024.

  1. May 16, 2024 at 12:52 PM
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    TonyKarter

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    Is a 2nd Gen old enough to possibly survive an EMP attack?
     
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  2. May 16, 2024 at 1:00 PM
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    EMP Safe Vehicles

    Since the idea behind an EMP attack is to take out delicate electronics, and modern cars and trucks are chock full of electronics, the conventional wisdom says that any car built since the early 1980s is likely to be vulnerable to an EMP. By the same logic, newer vehicles that are even more reliant on electronics are much more likely to be damaged in the event of such an attack.

    Modern vehicles do use a number of electronically-controlled systems, from fuel injection to transmission controls and everything in between, so it only seems logical that a powerful EMP would turn any modern vehicle into an expensive paperweight by shutting down the electrical system or permanently damaging it.

    According to this logic, older vehicles that don't make use of complex onboard electronics systems should be safe from an EMP attack. However, the small amount of real-world testing that has actually been done doesn't necessarily line up with these very reasonable assumptions.
     
  4. May 16, 2024 at 1:11 PM
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    2nd Gen has an ECU, so not likely survivable.
     
  5. May 16, 2024 at 2:11 PM
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    Bicycles and horses are certainly immune.
     
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  7. May 16, 2024 at 3:29 PM
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    What about E-bikes and E-horses?
     
  11. May 16, 2024 at 6:26 PM
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    Yeah, I'd rather have fuel injection and electronic ignition and take my chances with EMP. I already did my time with carb cleaner and a timing gun.
     
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  12. May 16, 2024 at 6:43 PM
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    You’re not kidding. We should start selling faraday cages
     
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    CUCV K5 would be my pick.
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    Screams “shoot me first”…
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    The good old Cuck5

    oh wait spelled it wrong
     
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    Yea the other thing is that I read small electronics would be more likely to survive due to less antenna length reducing EMP “reception” and cars are already kind of a Faraday cage and lack those big antennas.

    But if we’re in a spot to worry about EMP, probably a good chance we’d have bigger fish to fry.

    If not a bicycle and modern vehicles are negatively-affected, one would probably want an old motorcycle since while you’d be zipping around, others won’t necessarily be.
     
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    My Blazer would keep rolling. Original, down to the points distributor. 713A4A32-D213-4AB1-A1F5-37399147F57C.jpg
     
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