2025 6th gen 4Runner Official Reveal Thread

All I’m sayin is this is gonna make it tough to camp out in the back of a T4R. It’s a major bummer.

 

Lift doesn't give clearance(Unless hefty problematic body lift), big tires do. So 35s are the way to go now.

 

MSRP will be jaw dropping. No thanks. I'm too old for that game. I've played that game in the past. Smart money is on a well cared for 5th gen. Drive it forever.

 

access to the third row

 

Unfortunately that means taking it out in snow and salt for many and surely the frame rust issue still exists. It’s a catch 22 for those who want to keep a long time. You’re right not the good old trucks.

If you want to buy one and retire and keep for long time and won’t drive as much, or work from home probably not a good idea.

I’m so glad we can be mandated so many personal sacrifices in favor of what some think are good for the environment

 

I have a Honda Civic with 230k miles on it and never had a single issue and all I’ve really ever done is oil changes and belts at the required interval. Turbos are not that bad.

 

I wonder what color choices they are going to offer? I hope underground gray comes back.

 

The battery is covered by 10 year 150k mile warranty. You don’t think battery technology has changed since old Prius?

 

“Like the Tacoma, the 4Runner is built on Toyota’s new TNGA-F body-on-frame truck platform and should deliver ride quality improvements we’ve seen in other vehicles. Unlike the Tacoma, Toyota will continue to assemble the 4Runner at its Tahara plant in Japan. GearPatrol.com “

 

I'm curious how long it will be from the lift-gate to the fully folded seat. It might be long enough for shorter people.

Otherwise, I wonder if the seats will be easy to remove, in order to use the full length to back of the front seats.

What's the point of owning a 4×4 and letting it sit all Winter? Bad weather is what they're made for.

With a completely new frame, how are you already certain that there's going to be rust issues?

And, frame rust was mostly a Tacoma issue. Every once in awhile someone will claim that 4Runners are just as bad, but there is nothing to support that statement.

 

Obviously every battery will grenade after 10 years. Look around on this forum. It's well known that battery technology hasn't changed since the '70's.

Kidding aside, I do believe it will be a maintenance item. But, I believe bad cells can be replaced on some batteries and it's a lot less expensive than replacing the whole thing.

Luckily we also have a non-hybrid option.

 

No, it was not a given, apparently you have not been reading the speculation thread for the last year. There was lots of information and posts that it was moving to Mexico.

One post said it would start production in Japan for the first year and then transition to Mexico in future years, let's hope that is wrong as well.

 

Love it, love it, love it!……all but the Limited (ugh!).

Seems like a blend of 4th and 5th gens. Well done looks wise. Will eventually see how she drives.

 

Anyone catch whether a review mentions if these new engines will have stop/start when the vehicle is stationary?

 

Isn’t the front end strangely long?

 

I like it. The exterior seem to be tad overdone but overall looks like a maturer design.The interiors with those tan seats looks great.
I can see a lot of people with a grand highlander or a Honda pilot in mind also looking at this due to its softer, more family friendly vibes. Might not have the same space but even then.
Toyota should still sell bucket loads of these.

 

I am not certain they did not update the frame for rust issues. But if they did nobody commented of the videos I watched anyway and I think they would be worthwhile commenting on

I get most probably want to use it in winter but some of us want to get a longer life out of it. I have read enough posts about frame rust (had some upon delivery myself), needle bearing issues, garnish rubbing paint on rear hatch, etc on this website that I believe are legit issues.

I think the bulk majority of us enjoy our 4Rs myself and believe it’s overall a quality vehicle the 5th Gen. But not even toyota is exempt from issues. These are all designed with human elements and not perfect. The key is how issues are handled and addressed. Are they corrected properly and to the best of a company’s ability. It’s just like any of us owning up when we make mistakes we all make them but do your best to correct it and prevent in the future.

 

They must be selling the Tacomas like hot cakes. I’ve seen one on all the lots here and that briefly

 

In case this has not already been posted, an interesting comparison.

Here's What Makes the New Toyota 4Runner and Land Cruiser Different
https://www.motor1.com/news/715514/2025-toyota-land-cruiser-vs-4runner/

 

It's a completely new frame. There could be issues, but there's no reason to assume there will be.

You don't need to park it all Winter for it to last. My '03 lived outside and had a solid frame after 257K miles and years of neglect. If you're really concerned, there are numerous products that can protect the frame.

Where are all of these posts about frame rust? Are you talking about surface rust?

The last time someone claimed they were worse than Tacomas, they could only provide 3 examples of significant frame rust (on 4Runners) and they were high mileage vehicles and likely caused by neglect. I wouldn't worry about it so much.

 

Oh boy! That will really boil my blood. That’s one thing 4R should never do. “Old school” no
More

 

So I finally watched TRDJON’s YouTube video of the TRD PRO and I actually liked what I saw. Maybe I’ll get one someday but I’m still keeping my 5th Gen…lol.

I do have one question though. My 2022 Lexus had ventilated seats which I was never able to get comfortable sitting on. (This was the reason I got rid of it). I’m wondering if the ventilated seats will effect the seat’s comfort?

 

Meanwhile, some dealerships can't keep the Tacomas on the lot. I've seen a few Tacomas, and plenty of Tundras on the road.

Where are you located that there's such a huge supply?

Maybe those interested can travel to buy from the area since they're probably offering discounts.

 

0.4” is not virtually identical. It’s literally the definition of not identical.

 

Is it me or do the rear doors seem smaller than the 5th gen? Also is there less legroom?

 

I spotted a stop/start off button (that A with the circular arrow around it labeled OFF) in some footage so it’s here. Likely available for gas only since it’s always been a thing for Toyota hybrids.

I drove a Corolla Cross rental with it, I’d say it was at least much smarter an implementation than a Soul I rented.

 

Where?

I stopped to look at a Tacoma in S/E Wisconsin and they only had 1, and a guy already had an appointment to look at it. The dealerships I've spoken with are selling them as quickly as they show up.

Please post a picture of one of these lots that are lined with 2024 Tacomas. Or, name a dealership so that interested parties can see what's available.

Personally, I have a hard time believing there's a dealership anywhere in this country that's loaded with new Tacomas.

 

Just waking and getting caught up on all the chatter over night and read the official press releases. I haven't gone thought the auto mag reviews yet or the videos from TFL and ToyotaJeff but seems like those are overwhelmingly all positive.


I had a very UGH reaction yesterday to the leaked photos. I think its grown on me a bit after sleeping on it a bit but I still really dislike the styling.

Dislike:
- Front end
- Overall styling is too busy
- Insane amount of badging. Ive never been one to debadge, and I like some tastful badging but this is just off the deep end. Its an industry trend though unfortunately
- 14 in screen tacked on the dash. But again I know its an industry thing they have to compete with


Neutral
- Going to small turbo engine and 8 speed. Nothing wrong with this as long as its done right (and can actually improve both MPG and power to weight)
- NiMH hybrid battery. I wish the whole industry would ditch ancient Ni and LiIon Cobalt and go to LiFePO4 (lithium iron). As safe as Ni and as powerful as lithium with a lifespan measured in decades...
- TSS 3.0 - I think I would like the pseudo self drive cruise mode but I'm worried that the pedestrian detection and predictive driving aids may feel way too intrusive on the road
- Loss of approach/departure angles.. I'm not a serious offroader so I probably wont notice but I get why guys are pissed
- long hood and steep windshield rake. I get why they have to do this for efficiency but I definitely like the look and space of the current gen better
- Loosing the manual Transfer case. This is an emotional thing, but I am not surprised they have to do it because of the new platform and get that the current one is still relying on electronics (ADD) anyway...


Like:
- Still made in Japan
- iForce Max power and better transmission will fix the one major flaw of current gen (not being able to get out of its own way merging on freeway)
- Slight increase in towing is nice but I was hoping for even more
- Trailhunter having 33s stock is certainly an improvement
- Sway bar disconnect is an improvement and closes one gap to Jeep/Bronco
- The new quieter A-TRAC sounds intriguing.... I drove a current gen defender and that thing is dead silent with all the active traction modes running, made me realize how rough a 4R is.



Bottom line: I'm going to give it time. I'm a buy new every 10 years or so guy (went from 03 Acura to 14 Taco to 23 4R) , and usually skip a gen - so I may not serious look at this until the next refresh or 7th gen. Next go around I will be close to early retirement and had considered just keeping the 23 forever and demoting it to weekender vehicle at some point but come 2033 I may decide to trade it... who knows

 

Firstly, am I even talking about the Tacoma or the Tundra here, keyboard warrior.