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New to me ‘16 Limited Brakes

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by TheSponge, Mar 17, 2024.

  1. Mar 17, 2024 at 4:12 PM
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    TheSponge

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    So I’ve had a new to me ‘16 Limited now for about 6months. The vehicle has 82k km (~51k miles). What I am noticing is pulsing in the brakes, drives me insane.

    Given this vehicles mileage and age I doubt they were ever replaced or serviced. Previous owner was away a lot so the vehicle sat a lot and potentially caused warping perhaps.

    What I’d like to know is what pads/rotors does everyone recommend? The rears appear to have quite the lip on the rotor. I was thinking with starting to replace the rears and servicing the pins etc. but looking for a recommendation on pads and rotors.
     
  2. Mar 17, 2024 at 4:58 PM
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    OE break parts are the way to go. Just check your replacement pads, avoid the ones with “AZ” in the part number.
     
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  3. Mar 17, 2024 at 5:15 PM
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    Avoid the ‘AZ’ from where? The dealer? What does the ‘AZ’ stand for? Can you provide a bit more context, please?
     
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    OEM rear pads and rotors.
    Rotors 42431-60311
    Pads 04466-60140
    There are two OEM pads with different parts number. One part number has AZ in them. Do not get them .
     
  5. Mar 17, 2024 at 5:45 PM
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    If you're getting pulsing in the brakes when the pedal is pushed, it's more than likely the front rotors that are warped. If the prior owner liked to ride the brakes, then warpage is likely to happen. It's not too expensive to just do both the front and rear with OEM rotors and pads. If you're in Utah, I'm more than happy to help out.
     
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    AZ in the part number, like this (do not buy these)
    04465-AZ00
     
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    OE works really fine, and that what I went with.

    If you have time to research and are willing to risk your installation time, there are probably good aftermarket options out there. But they will cost the same or more than OE, and probably won’t be better.

    I didn’t know this when I asked the parts guy for OE pads, and got the AZ parts. They had ridiculous amounts of initial bite for the first 500 miles or so, which made it hard to stop smoothly when I was going slow (like in off road situations). They settled down eventually and feel like the factory pads now. However, the excessive bite may have been because I didn’t replace my rotors (they were very clean/flat, but it may have made the new pads take longer to bed in).
     
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    So I’m new to the Toyota platform, but where you all getting your part numbers from?

    Because I used http://japan-parts.eu/toyota/us/201...assis/4707_rear-disc-brake-caliper-dust-cover

    and when I cross reference the rear pad # all I see is 04466, I don’t see that second part of your part # ( 60140) you provided me.

    Can someone enlighten me on these part # variances?
     
  9. Mar 17, 2024 at 7:16 PM
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    Yes, it’s when the pedal is pushed. Also, I drive a lot of time, and noticed it around those driving conditions. Also, it seems to be getting worse now as the weather is warming up and didn’t see to be a issue during the colder months..
     
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    From what I understand, the AZ pads are the value line started by Toyota a decade or so ago to compete with cheaper after market pads that had started flooding the market and to reduce customer complaints about high prices on regular use part items.
    The practice still continues even though Toyota maintains there is no difference in performance between the 2 pads.
     
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    What I run in the rear. Slotted rotors help with water evacuation coming out of a car wash or river crossing off-road:
    Bosch BC606 ceramic pads
    Raybestos 980780PER slotted rotor

     
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    OP: before you spend money buying parts, make sure rotors are warped. Easy to do, just buy from Harborfreight dial gauge and check for warpage. It may happens that vibrations will not disappear even after you change rotors, slotted or not.
     
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    Hoe so? First I hear that this type of scenario wouldn’t be eliminated by new pads/rotor. Unless of course there are suspension weaknesses but vehicle is tight, tracks straight and nothing out of the ordinary when it comes to how it handles. I come from the bmw world so I know a thing or two once bushings or other suspension starts to get ‘weak’ lol due to those fine German machines
     
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    Buy a Harborfreight dial gauge or next day via Amazon ATPEAM Dial Indicator with Magnetic Base <$30 before start throwing money on parts.
     
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    Had to replace mine on 2021. All 4 corners were pretty used up:
    beatbrakes.jpg

    Replaced and painted calipers:
    brakes.jpg

    What a difference it made. No shaking, no pulling, stops on a dime....
     
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    What parts did you use? OEM?

    I am still curious on where the part #s come from my earlier post.
     
  17. Mar 20, 2024 at 5:17 AM
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    Appreciate the offer, but I'm very very very from you :D

    Brakes are fairly straight forward
     
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    "No shaking, no pulling, stops on a dime...." - those signs had to be addressed at first moment. Now it stops on dime, huh? You had no brakes before? how long have you drive without proper brakes? what I see on your pictures that brakes never been serviced. Servicing brakes are done usually in a spring, after salty winter snow slush, and fairly easy, just disassemble everything, clean, check if internal pistons not frozen (yours obviously are), lube properly and reinstall. painting looks pretty outside, but it is not maintenance.
     
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    Pad deposits on the rotors are often mistaken as warped rotors. Try doing a pad break in procedure and see if the pulsation goes away
     
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    I think it was the red paint that helped balance things out. Looks good.
     

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