E Rated Toyo tires?

Who's running E loads? Toyos? How do you like them?

It's time for new tires, I have a 2-in lift about to go on, and I really want to run 255.80 17. They're all E load, and the two I like the most are the Toyo RT Trail and the Toyo AT3. The AT3 is the lightest tire in that size, it's 50 lbs, the Trail is 52 lbs if I recall correctly.

I'm currently running SL's in stock size, and am concerned an E is way overkill and is going to ride harsh.

Anyone running an E load Toyo, did you find that they ride harsh as compared to a standard load?

I'm not going crazy wheeling, I mostly do highway, 60 mi a day commuting. It's a weekend warrior vehicle, hopefully I'll get out on the trail once a month once the season starts.

 

Check out these threads for the feedback you want:

https://www.4runners.com/threads/psi-for-load-range-e-tires.24062/

 

Just curious as to why E load if you don’t do serious wheeling. Do you have a heavy load or plan on pulling heavy weight? Otherwise C load would be more than adequate even SL

 

I really want to run a 255 80 17, and they're only available in E load. If they were available in a C it wouldn't even be a question.

There's a lot of 17" tire sizes out there, but finding the size I want in the load range I want, without it weighing a ton is proving to be fairly difficult.

 

Why even bother?

 

Bother what? Building a Toyota? Yeah, I often wonder that myself.

 

Ah ok, sucks they don’t make them in E load. Most guys that I know run that size do go off-roading quite a bit, maybe C load in that size wouldn’t be a good off road tire? Just thinking out loud.

 

Stick with SL or C. The E is heavy and really only useful for heavy towing more than a 4Runner can tow or if you are an extreme offroader that really needs the protection.

 

Tough to say. Only because what some say rides smooth, others will say rides rough.

But you can dial in tire pressure to get a decent ride. I sugguest starting soft at 30-32psi and going from there. Even though the rt looks cool. You'll benefit from the at3 with the highway driving.

 

If it matters, LT275/70R17 Load E was a bad choice for me. Sold it after a short period and lost money..

 

“harsh ride” is so subjective, and depending on other factors like shock valving, weight and tire pressure, it could work just fine…. Or not!

but say you’re a stock truck with an off the shelf lift, you may need to take the pressure down to keep your (or your wife’s) butt happy.

 

I have exactly what you're describing, and like you, I don't do "hardcore" off-roading. I have a 2" lift and I run Toyo MT's in 255/80R17. I would personally never own a tire that wasn't E-rated for a 4 wheel drive vehicle. I don't often drive in rough, rocky places, but when I do, I don't want my tires to be the reason that my very capable vehicle doesn't make it out again. I know a lot of people are sensitive to ride comfort, but I couldn't care less, personally. If I'd wanted a car to feel smooth I would have bought a sedan. I want a 4Runner to feel like a truck.

Mine hasn't let me down, with some pretty butt-clenching driving on Colorado jeep trails, and backroads in Baja. They've taken me to Cabo San Lucas and two round trips across the country, from California to Maine to Washington, in the last year and a half.







PS- Yes, in this last photo it's snowing in Mexico...

 

Ditto on this! I have the Toyo Open Country in 285/70R17, E rated, and running them at 37psi, I find them to be quite quiet. They are a bit on the heavy side, and totally agree. I didn't put them on the 4Runner expecting a Lexus ride.

Cheers,

Sean

 

Not Toyo, but I do run E-load Wildpeaks. I don't find them harsh at all, maybe because they're on a stock suspension, which isn't as stiff as some aftermarket options.

 

Another reason could be tires like Wildpeaks AT3W are not 3ply like BFG KO2 Load E. So tires like Wildpeaks would have better ride.

 

Have Toyo AT3s LT/E on a 1ton truck, it’s fine… just don’t run 80 psi on them and your fillings won’t fall out.
Getting E’s on the runner Monday, fwiw

 

As others have said ride stiffness is subjective but if you have an adjustable suspension that can help make minor tweaks! Like others I run Toyo RT Trails in 285/75/R17 E and have no issues with the ride quality for daily. Like others have said load E gives some extra plies for off roading in rocky places. I learned my lessons with load Cs in CO- they just don’t hold up!

 

Running Toyo 285 AT3 E's. Their quiet. Handle well. I had AT2's on my Taco and like these 3's better. But it's only been 2500 miles.

 

Load rated E tires compared to load rated C or SL rated tires (same tire) will always have a harsher ride regardless if it's the OEM or aftermarket suspension. This may not be true on a heavy vehicle/towing vehicle that requires the use of E tires.

Load rated tires always weigh more than their C or SL rated counterparts.

Heavier E rated tires always impact mileage and unsprung mass more than their C and SL rated variants. It's simple physics based on their construction and weight.

E rated tires are the best choice for some and C /SL rated are best for most 4Runner owners. On a light vehicle like the 4Runner E rated may be needed in very harsh off road environments or for heavy towing.

 

Depends on where your located. My trails are full of sharp rocks. I wouldn’t consider anything other than E load. They ride great and wear longer. Trying to save a few pounds and thus increasing the risk of being stranded in the middle of the desert does not compute for me.

 

Likewise, as I run E load due to all the sharp rocks here in AZ. It's a piece of mind when I'm out in the middle of nowhere and my sidewalls are protected.
No issues for noise or ride quality just a small dip in mileage.

 

I’m going to dive in here, to just remind people that the 4-Runner is not a light vehicle, and then when you get the mods added in, like bumpers, winch, skids, sliders, roof rack gear, full camping gear, people, dogs, water, extra spare tire, extra gas,Did i miss anything?

 

Do you really need a tire that can take 80PSI? You admitted you're going to do a lot of commuting for work and mall crawling. A tire that heavy will give you a stiffer & noisier ride. I don't think you want to do this.

 

Surprisingly, I am still able to drive to the mall in comfort with my E rated tires.

 

Toyo AT3 285/70 E loads here, KDSS, Icon stage 7 and I run relatively light weight with the tires at ~42 psi on the street. Pretty much everything 'harsh' that you can get.

It feels much more like a car on the street than a stock 4runner, other 4r owners say it feels like an actual 1500 truck. On trails I air down to around 15psi, turn down the dampening on the shocks and it softens up a ton

It has a ton of offroad miles on it, and I'm happy with the setup all around. Very stable when loaded up and on the highway, great on the trails.

 

This is the actual ply construction of a Toyo MT Load Range E tire. Note that it has a full 7 plies in the tread area.


If you don't like changing rock-busted tires, the more plies in the tread area the better. I live out in the middle of Nevada where paved roads are hard to find. Learned very quickly that a "P" rated tire will not hold up to miles of rocky dirt road. It gets expensive throwing away almost new tires because they were rock-broke and can't be repaired. Have had these on my Jeep Wrangler for years. No flats, and I don't keep more than 20 psi in them. I also run them on my heavy rigs.

Yes, they are very heavy. They do ride rougher than a "P" tire and they reduce your fuel mileage. But they don't get flats!

Look at this road surface...typical well-maintained Nevada road. Smooth, but with rocks all over the surface. Doesn't take long for those rocks to do in a passenger type tire, especially if you drive fast.

 

The same tires? Please post an update when you get them!

I was thinking I would probably end up running them around 35, 36. I have SL's right now at 35 psi and they're wearing perfectly evenly.

 

I definitely do not need a tire that can take 80 PSI, I don't think any 4Runner owner does. Unfortunately the size that I want to run only comes in E load. Quite a few of the popular tires in the popular 4Runner sizes only come in E actually.

All I want is a inch taller tire without going wider, you would think that wouldn't be so freaking difficult.

 

Same tire just a lot smaller

I’ll spend a few days testing the pressure to figure out what it needs.

On my 1 Ton (9000+ pounds) I run 60 up front and 55 rear unloaded. When loaded up I air up to 75.

I imagine 37-45 will be the sweet spot. When I’m not feeling lazy I’ll dig up the pressure chart for the tires and compare the pressures to the front/rear weights of the runner under normal and max load conditions. That’ll give me my range of pressures to try. Chalk test also helps.

My buddy had the SLs on his runner and only got about 35k out of them, he was pissed. He went LTs for the next set.

 

Just because it can do 80psi, doesn’t mean you have to.

4Runner speedometer goes to 120… won’t ever get it that high.