1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Am I being an old grumpy man?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by PVT Pablo, Jan 17, 2024.

  1. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:17 PM
    #1
    PVT Pablo

    PVT Pablo [OP]

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2016
    Member:
    #1694
    Messages:
    2,352
    First Name:
    Paul
    Kitsap County, WA
    Vehicle:
    2016 4Runner TRD Pro
    I need 4Runners opinion, so please let me have it.

    Story:
    My neighbor parks so close to my driveway every single day even though there's plenty of room to move his truck up, like three car lengths. He actually parks further from his front door doing this. It makes it hard to pull in and out of my driveway.

    Am I being an old grumpy man who's annoyed about nothing or is this him being a prick?

    20240117_161333.jpg

    I know someone will say, "Talk to him". But, he sprints inside as fast as he can and last time the previous owner tried talking to him he said, "get off my property."
     
  2. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:24 PM
    #2
    steelevo

    steelevo Not so new anymore...

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2022
    Member:
    #29845
    Messages:
    2,552
    Utah
    Vehicle:
    2023 4Runner TRD Pro Solar Octane
    From the picture, he doesn’t seem to be blocking your driveway. Although, that is one narrow street.

    A few options to remedy the situation.
    1 - Go knock on their door and try to have a civil conversation.
    2 - Check for any city/ state ordinances that prevent parking from “x” feet of a private driveway.
    3 - Petition the city to mark that curb as a red fire zone.
    4 - Buy a beater car and keep it registered. Then, just make sure to park it in that spot for a few months.
     
  3. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:25 PM
    #3
    sam95

    sam95 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2024
    Member:
    #37862
    Messages:
    14
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Samuel
    Vehicle:
    2014 4Runner Sr5 premium 4x4
    Your not being an "grumpy old man" that is definitely annoying and if he really does have so much room to move up its just silly that he would park like that. I doubt he is parking there with the purpose to annoy you. My guess is he has some weird reasoning why that's the best spot for his car maybe its shadier or easier to get out idk, but if you really cant talk to him it might be time for war. Park your car there before he does and see what happens, or move your trash cans there and see where he parks maybe if your in the way enough he will just change where he parks permanently. Or try and leave him a note.
     
    steelevo likes this.
  4. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:29 PM
    #4
    PVT Pablo

    PVT Pablo [OP]

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2016
    Member:
    #1694
    Messages:
    2,352
    First Name:
    Paul
    Kitsap County, WA
    Vehicle:
    2016 4Runner TRD Pro
    There are in fact ordinances making his activity illegal, it's 5 feet from the driveway in my area. I would be in the right calling parking enforcement, who is very responsive.

    I have considered the beater haha

    I've been keeping an eye on the local classifieds for like a 300 dollar beater if he wants to play games haha

    It kills me too because he has a 2 car wide driveway and enough room in front of his house for two additional vehicles, yet he does what's pictured.

    I should also add I caught him one day checking to see where the back of his truck was after parking.
     
    2Toys likes this.
  5. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:31 PM
    #5
    Stoney Ranger

    Stoney Ranger New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2021
    Member:
    #20419
    Messages:
    1,016
    Gender:
    Male
    Driftless Area
    Vehicle:
    '18 SR5 Nauti Blue
    4x Rockers/Skids-Dobi-275's-Fr/R Bpr-Winch-Stickers-ALF
    Park your car right up to the rear bumper and the wife's car right up to the front bumper. Box him in!!
     
  6. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:35 PM
    #6
    djwantke

    djwantke New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2021
    Member:
    #19487
    Messages:
    3,444
    Gender:
    Male
    Maple Ridge, British Columbia
    Vehicle:
    2016 4Runner Trail Premium
    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    what a dick
     
    Han4Run and LCJ77 like this.
  7. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:45 PM
    #7
    siblue

    siblue Old member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2016
    Member:
    #1950
    Messages:
    526
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Socal
    Vehicle:
    24 Land Cruiser
    Yeah that neighbor is a dick. I wonder if your responses will differ on Tundras
     
  8. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:47 PM
    #8
    PVT Pablo

    PVT Pablo [OP]

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2016
    Member:
    #1694
    Messages:
    2,352
    First Name:
    Paul
    Kitsap County, WA
    Vehicle:
    2016 4Runner TRD Pro
    I'm a 3rd gen so you know they will just tell me my neighbor wouldn't be doing that if I had a 2nd gen :rolleyes:
     
    Ironguy and siblue[QUOTED] like this.
  9. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:49 PM
    #9
    siblue

    siblue Old member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2016
    Member:
    #1950
    Messages:
    526
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Socal
    Vehicle:
    24 Land Cruiser
    Haha yup
     
  10. Jan 17, 2024 at 4:50 PM
    #10
    Lc200

    Lc200 New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2023
    Member:
    #33430
    Messages:
    868
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    Pre Facelift SR5P
    Park your car in that spot. Do it for a few days.
    If that does not give him the hint, get ready for an argument. He knows exactly what he is doing.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2024
  11. Jan 17, 2024 at 5:13 PM
    #11
    Nutmegtheref

    Nutmegtheref ****

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2021
    Member:
    #19645
    Messages:
    142
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2021 TRD Pro
  12. Jan 17, 2024 at 5:40 PM
    #12
    Dillusion

    Dillusion Resident A**h***

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2018
    Member:
    #7998
    Messages:
    3,071
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kyle
    Island in the Middle of the Ocean
    Vehicle:
    2018 TRD OR
    This thread shouldn't of been made without a conversation with the guy first.
     
  13. Jan 17, 2024 at 5:41 PM
    #13
    San Angelo

    San Angelo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2022
    Member:
    #29161
    Messages:
    274
    Have you tried to have a clam neighborly discussion with him and explain it makes it hard for you to get in and out of your driveway?

    Maybe he doesn’t even recognize what he is doing is causing you an issue especially if you have not told him.

    now if you have talked to him in a civilized neighborly way and he doesn’t care then I would call enforcement about not being far enough away per your local ordinance.
     
  14. Jan 17, 2024 at 5:47 PM
    #14
    Borracho Loco

    Borracho Loco My 4Runner identifies as a Prius!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2023
    Member:
    #35824
    Messages:
    2,461
    Gender:
    Male
    Dallas/Ft Worth
    Vehicle:
    2023 40th Anniversary Special Edition
    Oooh look, another mod.....

    This is the best suggestion. Park in that exact spot for two (or more) weeks. Or, even better, park another car in that exact spot (that way, it won't move for days or weeks - if you have that option).
     
    2Toys likes this.
  15. Jan 17, 2024 at 7:03 PM
    #15
    SR5 Limited

    SR5 Limited New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2018
    Member:
    #7180
    Messages:
    13,549
    Vehicle:
    1996 SR5 Limited
    Hey, my nieghbor had a high power spot light on my back porch for two years. They finally lowered the wattage. Then the neighbor upwind burns dog shit and trash.lol
     
  16. Jan 17, 2024 at 7:03 PM
    #16
    SR5 Limited

    SR5 Limited New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2018
    Member:
    #7180
    Messages:
    13,549
    Vehicle:
    1996 SR5 Limited
    Your going to out live him.
     
  17. Jan 17, 2024 at 7:48 PM
    #17
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,607
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    People who park like dicks bug the shit out of me! However, I'm a grumpy old man at heart.

    I can't blame you for being hesitant to call parking enforcement. I'm sure you don't want a grudge with a neighbor.
     
    semprenissart likes this.
  18. Jan 17, 2024 at 7:54 PM
    #18
    FN2187

    FN2187 Stormtrooper

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2022
    Member:
    #27707
    Messages:
    1,545
    Earth
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD ORP w/ KDSS
    Victory 4x4 Blitz front bumper Smittybilt 10k Synthetic Gobi Stealth no-rise RCI sliders Rago panels and shelf, dash mount RCI Alu skids Dobinsons 2.5/1.5 285/70 Cooper Discoverer Rugged Trek SSO Hitch Mounted Swingout Anytime Front/Rear Camera
    Agree with some others. I'm a self-identified grumpy old man so this would be my approach:
    1. Civil conversation
    2. Scorched earth policy

    When brain power fails, brute force prevails
     
    semprenissart, Thatbassguy and 2Toys like this.
  19. Jan 17, 2024 at 7:55 PM
    #19
    chadp82

    chadp82 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2021
    Member:
    #23193
    Messages:
    59
    Vehicle:
    2021 TRD Pro Premium
    Get that beater car and park right in front of his house. To heck with using to hold a spot outside yours.
     
    2Toys likes this.
  20. Jan 17, 2024 at 7:58 PM
    #20
    SR5 Limited

    SR5 Limited New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2018
    Member:
    #7180
    Messages:
    13,549
    Vehicle:
    1996 SR5 Limited
    Well, you can't threatin anyone. An xofficer had a "wellness check" last week. They blew him away on his ftont porch at midnight.
     
  21. Jan 17, 2024 at 11:24 PM
    #21
    PVT Pablo

    PVT Pablo [OP]

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2016
    Member:
    #1694
    Messages:
    2,352
    First Name:
    Paul
    Kitsap County, WA
    Vehicle:
    2016 4Runner TRD Pro
    I genuinely have a hard time believing he is parking his rear bumper exactly on our property line (which has zero effect on parking enforcement) and not doing this to be a cock. I'd love to have a conversation with him but it's hard to catch him, but I may have to knock on his door. I suspect however when I do he won't answer based on the previous owners experiences.
     
  22. Jan 18, 2024 at 12:14 AM
    #22
    roooo

    roooo New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2023
    Member:
    #36679
    Messages:
    204
    2018 Silver ORP KDSS
    park in his driveway

    you gotta go over the top of him
     
    Captain Rex and Stoney Ranger like this.
  23. Jan 18, 2024 at 1:10 AM
    #23
    ReRunner

    ReRunner Fred Berry Enthusiast

    Joined:
    May 9, 2022
    Member:
    #27000
    Messages:
    106
    Vehicle:
    2022 MGM ORP
    Write him a nice, kind letter explaining your concerns and mail it, certified. No response or action taken? Call the cops for creating a public nuisance/hazard/obstruction of safe travel/etc. Be sure and have your local ordinance(s) he's violating ready to give the cops in case they're lazy.

    Do not approach someone in-person that you know has a history of being a dick to neighbors. They usually are looking for an excuse to fuck your life up. Legally I mean. Sadly, the days of neighborly interaction seem to have disappeared from our society.
     
  24. Jan 18, 2024 at 4:03 AM
    #24
    hossler1788

    hossler1788 Turtle

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2020
    Member:
    #18578
    Messages:
    2,112
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joshua
    Central Pa
    Vehicle:
    2020 4runner
    This same shit happens in my neighborhood! And bugs the shit outta me.

    When it does I park my wife's car in the street to keep people away from our driveway.

    But I hate having to talk to my neighbors about issues like this. Only because you know they know what the they are doing.
     
  25. Jan 18, 2024 at 5:10 AM
    #25
    2018 Limited

    2018 Limited New Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2022
    Member:
    #27075
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    BDR
    Vehicle:
    2018 Limited
    Hey kid ! Get off my lawn! Ok just kidding. My wife tells me I’ve become “that guy” My neighbor did the same. I explained to him nicely that it makes it difficult for me to get in and out of my driveway if he parks there. I asked him not to park there unless he had no other option. He doesn’t park there anymore.
     
    kolter45 and San Angelo like this.
  26. Jan 18, 2024 at 5:34 AM
    #26
    7Runner

    7Runner New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2021
    Member:
    #19736
    Messages:
    117
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Silver SR5P
    Put an orange cone behind his vehicle and then wait for him to ask you why you put it there.
    Then proceed to give him an earful of knowledge and wisdom.
     
  27. Jan 18, 2024 at 6:52 AM
    #27
    San Angelo

    San Angelo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2022
    Member:
    #29161
    Messages:
    274
    Amazing acting like an adult worked. To many people now have the default mode of starting off hey a** hole get bent and then wonder why it didn’t work out nicely.
     
    kolter45, Daddykool and 1SilverRunner like this.
  28. Jan 18, 2024 at 7:56 AM
    #28
    2018 Limited

    2018 Limited New Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2022
    Member:
    #27075
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    BDR
    Vehicle:
    2018 Limited
    Passive aggression is never a good idea as well as doing damage to someone else’s property. Be a gentleman
    My point exactly. Thank you.
     
    Daddykool likes this.
  29. Jan 18, 2024 at 8:26 AM
    #29
    Daddykool

    Daddykool Photography enthusiast

    Joined:
    May 5, 2021
    Member:
    #21295
    Messages:
    1,898
    Gender:
    Male
    Since there's room, and you're concerned about how he might respond to a door knock, you could try parking in the space in front of his. Nicely, of course, leaving him room to pull out. He may initiate the conversation by asking why you started parking there. You could respond by saying you were concerned about getting hit pulling out of your driveway, or accidentally clipping his truck while backing out. Legitimate concerns that imply your concern for his truck. And it'll get his attention quickly, being a new move on your part. But as others have said, keep it friendly.
     
  30. Jan 18, 2024 at 9:31 AM
    #30
    ElectroBoy

    ElectroBoy Ad astra

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2020
    Member:
    #15823
    Messages:
    1,998
    Gender:
    Male
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2018 ORP
    A similar thing happened to me. I finally saw him one day getting out of his truck after parking it and got the chance to talk to him. I told him he’s too close when parked like that and I don’t want to clip his nice truck when I back out. I offered him another solution to park away from my driveway, even directly in front of my house. Then we started talking about his beloved truck, a 3rd Gen 4R like my old one.
    He wound up never parking there again, and claimed a spot closer to his house.
     
    icebear, 2Toys, Branden967 and 3 others like this.

Products Discussed in

To Top