Too much technology in current 4Runners???

Not sure I've seen a lot of Groucho Marx. I've watched a few Charlie Chaplain movies recently - can't remember which streaming service they're on (maybe max?) but there were many I came across not too long ago and watched a couple. I know you were in the business, and I know very little about it, but I find movie history fascinating.

 

I made a weak attempt to pull it back on track once or twice but clearly more effort was put into derailing it. My apologies to the OP.

 

There should a thread title:
“how bad can we derail this thread”

it would get a ton of action on this forum.

 

I apologize too. I’ll keep the central door locks, the electric windows, and the gps. All the other tech can go bye bye and I wouldn’t miss it. It could be worse though. My wife’s Atlas will parallel park itself.

 

So if it bumps a car while parking itself, who is responsible? Your insurance or the manufacturer?

 

I drove manual for at least a decade after getting my license. It’s too bad they are almost extinct. I would still drive one today but my wife also drives our Tacoma.

Love the manual trans in My civic type r, too bad I rarely drive it. Had it two years and only 300 miles on it lol.

 

I just won’t let my wife drive the civic type r to learn lol. I Need to rent a manual someday she would like to learn.

 

You are responsible. Your insurance will pay the claim, and then retain the right to pursue damages against the manufacturer…

except that last bit doesn’t happen in this set of circumstances.

If any insurance you have pays a claim for which someone else should be liable, they will pursue that party for damages.

This is why you see weird cases where parents sue their kids - they don’t want to, but it has to play out that way for insurance purposes.

In civil cases juries are not supposed to know or even consider insurance when they render a verdict or damages.

 

Smart man, lmao!

 

I hate the lane departure thing. In the Prius Prime, I can feel the car pushing me back into the lane whenever I try change lanes at fast speeds. That's why I'm fixing my 95 runner. Radio and automatic read window is all the technology I need in my car

 

You wouldn’t feel that in the 4Runner. Only cars with electric power steering push back, and the 4Runner has hydraulic power steering. Besides, you can turn lane departure off.

 

What do you call changing lanes at fast speeds? Changing lanes without using the turn signal? I dont have a Prius Prime, but cars that have lane assist usually dont "push you back" when you have your turn signals activated

 

That's why people shouldnt assume putting their turn signal give them priority. Truck is still in the wrong even if he had activated his turn signal.

People need to understand they should use their signal AND change lanes when SAFE to do so, not as they activate their turn signal

PS: I'm not talking about you, just the people I see EVERY DAY on the road

 

I agree with this 100% but you have to understand the perspective of truck drivers too. I knew people who drove trucks who said they signaled, gave 3-5 blinks, then started changing lanes because if they didn't they'd be in that lane forever trying to get over. I don't agree with that position but I understand where they are coming from. When there is a ton of traffic and people are trying to zip around these trucks while they are signaling they need to get over and nobody is leaving space, they make space.

 

I wasn’t only talking about truck drivers but people in general.

Regarding truckers, I experiment with the best and the worst of them every single time I drive to flagstaff. Some of them are great and mindful. Others almost cut you off when you’re about to pass them on a 2 lane highway because they want to pass another truck going uphill and backup everyone behind when they could have waited a couple seconds to pass when no car present.

 

You're going to run into good drivers and bad drivers. From what I've seen truckers have a lot of experience (that's their job) and tend to pay more attention to what's going on than the average driver. Not everyone has a grasp of spacial awareness for even depth perception.

Will be interesting to see what happens with the self driving, battery powered 18-wheelers. I think CA just passed a law that the self driving trucks are required to have a driver present. Probably the most sensible law I've seen them pass in ages. The tech has a long way to go to be proven

 

OK, I finally got up to Denver last weekend to pick up my new ORP and sell my 2015 TP to my daughter who lives there and I will say that I am pleasantly surprised at all this new and upgraded technology! The blind spot mirrors were great driving around on the busy freeways in Denver. On the way back to Durango I really liked the lane departure warning and the dynamic radar cruise control but I could see myself turning off the lane departure warning when I am driving around in town. I'm even getting used to the keyless entry and push button start although I could easily live without it. I haven't tried the automatic dimming headlights or Apple CarPlay yet but I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks!

 

Congratulations, that's great news! I'm glad you're happy with the new runner!

 

Congrats!
The good thing with the 4R is that all the nannies can be turned off if unwanted unlike other cars. Like you said, it's nice to have certain features in a certain environment and being able to turn them off when the scenario is different

 

I’m on the fence. Part of me is very old school. I mean, I actually appreciate hand crank windows. I love manual transmission which is dead now. But, I appreciate the back up camera, Sirius XM radio, and heated seats. But I hate the idea of electronics failing. I was born in 76 so I kinda see the good ol days and the tech with this new stuff, and I’m split. I hate the cell phone addiction (social media) more than anything but that has nothing to do with vehicles

 

You bring an excellent point. I'll test it with and without the turn signal and see if I get the push back. Either way, I don't like it

 

You can disable the lane departure alarm, can't you?

 

If i disable the alarm, would it disable the automatic pushback i get when swithcing lanes?

 

In a way I find it funny. Sometimes it activates when I go around a corner. Sometimes it never activates at all. I'm keeping track of these things so the next trip to the dealer I will have a list of questions that they have no answers for.

 

My 2nd gen 22RE 5spd is pretty much as stripped as you can get…NO: auto, PW, CC, PL, PM, Power seats, moon roof, variable wipers, ABS, air bags…..none…zippo.
I love it for it’s mechanical “honesty”.
My wife doesn’t understand why I prefer to drive it rather than the 5th gen when she’s not along.

 

Goldie didn’t have AC either when new. I got the OEM kit thrown in at dealer cost when we bought it. An afternoon install in the driveway and a case of beer for a buddy to bring it into work to pump it down and back-fill with Freon ….ice cold to this day. Cable HVAC controls, cable driven speedo that mere mortals can repair.

 

A couple days ago a fullsize truck had it's blinker on approaching a stop sign and then went straight. They didn't turn left after the intersection either, I had to yield in my compact car . . . I think I do regret posting about rules.

That spounds like Steering Assist setting you want to change on your Prius . . . you could take a look in the owner's manual

 

I’ve sort of changed my mind about the technology after using the radar assisted cruise control, it is incredibly convenient on long drives. And the Bluetooth phone connect with my Apple Music. And I can call my wife without using my phone — this is all new and amazing to me. I’m usually old school, as my last post on this thread noted. I still miss Manual transmission though …

 

My blind spot detector mirrors

 

Ok the adaptive cruise "radar cruise" is pretty cool, I do not find the lane keep assist to be very effective; every other vehicle I have owned with that feature either gently nudged the steering wheel back in the lane, or vibrated the steering wheel or seat. This one just beeps (as far as I can tell). The collision avoidance feature confuses me - I have had the BRAKE NOW or whatever it says message appear when someone cut me off and started to brake. Does the 4Runner actually apply the brakes if you do not apply them in time? Or does it just scream at you and allow you the rear end someone?