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Pelfreybilt ::: 5th Gen T4R - Dual Swing Out Rear Bumper ::: Pre-Order Now!

Discussion in 'Pelfreybilt Off-Road' started by Pelfreybilt, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. Mar 8, 2018 at 12:18 PM
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    Pelfreybilt

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    Pelfreybilt ::: 5th Gen T4R - Dual Swing Out Rear Bumper ::: Order Now!
    4Runner Gated Bumper | Pelfreybilt Off-Road

    Hey Everyone!

    We are excited to release a NEW Rear Bumper for the 5th Gen Toyota 4Runner. The Dual Swing Out Bumper will have everything the off-road adventurist is looking for! This will be available as a non-swingout version as well for those looking for increased clearance and protection without the additional bells & whistles.

    - 100% Bolt-On, Zero-Cutting, Full Replacement Rear Bumper
    - Hitch Integrated
    - Integrated Hinges
    - Attached Handle for opening gate
    - Rubber trim on upper reveal edge
    - Rubber caps/plugs for bolt holes
    - Dual Gas Can Mounts (can be switched for CO2 Tanks, Propane Carrier, etc)
    - Spare Tire Mount (adjustable allowing up to 35" tire with varying wheel/tire combos)
    - License Plate Mount w/ Light
    - Hi-Lift Mount (inside gate on passenger side)
    - Table (inside gate on driver side. Insulated to prevent rattles/squeaks)
    - Accepts Baja Designs S2 Flush Mounts (here)
    - Clearance for Gobi Ladder

    GATED VERSION AVAILABLE HERE - $3,000.00
    4Runner Gated Bumper | Pelfreybilt Off-Road

    NON-GATED VERSION AVAILABLE HERE - $1,499.00
    4Runner Non-gated Bumper | Pelfreybilt Off-Road

    Estimated Lead Times: 3 Months

    -Pelfreybilt
    www.pelfreybilt.com
     

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  2. Mar 13, 2018 at 12:05 PM
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  3. Mar 15, 2018 at 9:09 AM
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    Looks nice. Fitment around taillight looks little off but may be angle of the pic.
     
  4. Mar 15, 2018 at 11:15 AM
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    IMO, it looks like well designed bumper. It's a little bit wider than the body and angles out away from those expensive tail lights. Look at it this way. If you come off a rock, you'll want the plate bumper to deflect obstacles away from the body. And the gap under the tail light and quarter is enough to soak up any body movement from rubber body mounts.

    Steve
     
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  5. Mar 15, 2018 at 11:17 AM
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    No I agree and understand the purpose of the gap. Just an observation I had. But like I said maybe just angle of the pic. Considering the front and rear for my wife's 4runner.
     
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  6. Mar 15, 2018 at 4:23 PM
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    It's a little bit of both :D

    With these Body On Frame vehicles you do have to leave a little room for frame flex and vibration. If there isn't a small gap you will quickly find points where the bumper contacts the body or other components. The angle of the photo does make the lines look a little off. We'll have some more photos soon.

    -Pelfreybilt
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  7. Mar 15, 2018 at 9:23 PM
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    Do you guys have any plans for camera relocation?
     
  8. Mar 19, 2018 at 3:13 PM
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    We sure do! The backup camera is going to be relocated. We'll have more photos soon
     
  9. Mar 21, 2018 at 8:29 PM
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    Please let us know when it’s available for purchase on website and you have more pics available for viewing on there as well; Aluminum or Steel or both?
     
  10. Mar 22, 2018 at 6:29 PM
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    Will do - this will be available in Steel construction only.
     
  11. Mar 26, 2018 at 3:28 PM
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    Here are some updated shots for everyone! This shows the Dual Swingout in more detail. Let us know if you have any questions. :cheers:

    -Pelfreybilt
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  12. Mar 26, 2018 at 5:25 PM
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    Do the hinges "roll" inside the bumper silhouette? Very neat.
     
  13. Apr 3, 2018 at 7:48 AM
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    Correct - they do hide in the bumper ends compared to a standard spindle :)

    -Pelfreybilt
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  14. May 4, 2018 at 10:02 AM
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    Looks like we've got some paparazzi at Lone Star Toyota Jamboree!

    Things sure are muddy out there and we got caught having some fun in the Pelfreybilt T4R. Hope everyone is having a blast like we are :)

    -Pelfreybilt
     
  15. May 5, 2018 at 8:32 PM
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  16. May 22, 2018 at 10:13 AM
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    See anything special about this Hinge? :)

    Inside the Pelfreybilt, T4R Gated Rear Bumper Hinge are stops. These slow and stop the gate from over extending and damaging the body of the vehicle. At the stopping location a pin will drop and keep the gate from accidentally closing. These two together will help prevent any accidental body damage via the swing out gate. For more information on our Toyota 4Runner Products please visit:

    www.pelfreybilt.com

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  17. May 23, 2018 at 8:04 PM
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    What's the total weight on this guy?
     
  18. May 24, 2018 at 12:36 PM
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    We are at about 200lbs (give or take depending on the options you're looking for :))

    -Pelfreybilt
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  19. May 28, 2018 at 9:46 PM
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    This looks wonderful.
    Very clean.
     
  20. May 29, 2018 at 6:46 AM
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    You wont find a swing out from any company in aluminum, it cant handle the weight and forces from wheeling. Steel is the only way to go on a swing out.

    Looks great @Pelfreybilt love the mud shots!!
     
  21. May 29, 2018 at 9:06 PM
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    Hefty Fab Works has an aluminum swing out....

     
  22. May 30, 2018 at 6:53 AM
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    I stand corrected...I would prefer steel, but preferences are preferences.
     
  23. May 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM
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    Thank You! :hattip:

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  24. Jun 13, 2018 at 8:35 AM
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    Thank You for all of the orders! We are excited to start getting these out :D

    -Pelfreybilt
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  25. Jun 18, 2018 at 10:31 AM
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    For those that have ordered, did you check out the most recent email update from Satin?

    I’d like to update you on how we’re doing with the production run of T4R rear bumpers. The production side of manufacturing, while a lot faster than the prototyping and fitment, does still take time as we work through the programming of the machines to insure accuracy for fitment etc.

    I met with Tyler today to get an update for you and we are on target to have the bumpers and gates ready for assembly, late July. This means, as we’ve said, we need ample time to assemble them, powder coat, package, collect balances + invoice for shipping etc. We estimate to begin shipping in August. The orders will be filled in order of receipt, so please bear with us as we shift our shop focus to the assembly of these bumpers.

    As I’ve done from day one, I will continue to keep you updated on the production process, but am so stoked to relay that things are looking good and for that we are SO excited!!

    Thank you so very much for joining us on this journey to releasing the best T4R gated rear bumper on the market!


    -Pelfreybilt
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  26. Jun 25, 2018 at 3:53 PM
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