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What have you done to your 5th Gen 4Runner today?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Bob, Jul 24, 2016.

  1. Jul 31, 2023 at 8:57 AM
    TeslasBigCarbonFootprint

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    Cheap touches to make it like home. This weekend:

    • Installed the Viofo A129 Pro Duo front facing camera and power supply for parking mode. (I will have to figure out how to route the rear-facing camera wire around the moon roof later.)

    • Installed front foot well lighting. (Tied in with the map lights and the fade off circuit).

    • Replaced map and door lights with cheapo Novsight T10 LEDs

    • Replaced backup lights with Alla LED 912 921 LEDs. BIG difference. They say "Don't f with me, I'm backing up!"

    • Installed an automatic light control sensor on the dashboard.

    • Scotchgard treated the carpeted floor mats. Put the all-weather floor mat in the driver's position only.

    • Added a pre-filter to the secondary air pump.

    • Added pre-oiled felt washers for the battery posts. The positive terminal was so stiff that I sliced one of the rings with a razor and jammed it up underneath after loosening it and lifting it maybe two or three millimeters.
     
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  2. Jul 31, 2023 at 10:32 AM
    MTMik109

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    Did this today.. Put this in a good hiding spot.. I had a friend get his truck recovered by giving the cops its location! Bought the water proof case on Amazon
    IMG_6754.jpg
     
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  3. Jul 31, 2023 at 10:38 AM
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    I imagine that would help finding where you are parked in certain situations, right?
     
  4. Jul 31, 2023 at 10:41 AM
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    yes it would
     
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  5. Jul 31, 2023 at 10:42 AM
    TeslasBigCarbonFootprint

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    ... could it not only track location, could it track speed that it moves from location to location? :D:D:D
     
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  6. Jul 31, 2023 at 11:37 AM
    TacoGeeloor

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    Wow I didn’t know that about altimeters either…I guess it makes total sense thinking about it though. Thank you for this detailed post!
     
  7. Jul 31, 2023 at 11:39 AM
    Thepremier141

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    Very interesting, I would be curious to know if it can track those metrics as well. Might have to get one of these.
     
  8. Jul 31, 2023 at 11:39 AM
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    Awesome, thanks for that. My gps has the elevation as you stated but I thought it would be nice to have a quick altitude reference when not using the gps….I guess it’s just easier to use the gps haha
     
  9. Jul 31, 2023 at 11:56 AM
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    Yeah, standard procedure when backpacking with a barometric altimeter is to calibrate against topo elevation a few times a day when you reach a convenient mapped spot. Less often is fine if you're just tracking elevation out of interest. The other important thing is to write down the correct elevation at bedtime, because it will change by morning. Then you will also know which way the weather is changing.

    For my purposes, an altimeter is a more frequently used navigation tool than a compass, because if you're following a trail, it can pinpoint your location almost as well as a GPS and it takes zero skill and no batteries to use. Those Sun Company altimeters perform very well. I bring mine on every trip.
     
  10. Jul 31, 2023 at 12:28 PM
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    Its only going to tell you location... Watch youtube videos on Airtags in vehicles..
     
  11. Jul 31, 2023 at 1:12 PM
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    I put one of these in my wife's car to make sure she's not cheating on me.

    I also put one in my girlfriends car. :spy:
     
  12. Jul 31, 2023 at 1:17 PM
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    All awhile they both put one in yours to catch you!!
     
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  13. Jul 31, 2023 at 1:18 PM
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    In working down by the fuse box at the driver's foot well, I found this under the door jamb trim piece. I have never seen this on my other 4Runners or any other Toyotas. I am presuming this is a grappling point when they dip and spray the cars on the production line. Pretty sure that the gray is the rust proof coating
    IMG_20230730_162544494.jpg
     
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  14. Jul 31, 2023 at 3:25 PM
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    Not sure how I feel about this plug. Of all things, an Allen wrench :censored:
    IMG_6362.jpg IMG_6368.jpg
     
  15. Jul 31, 2023 at 3:30 PM
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    I know for passenger cars, anything that close to the edge would be considered in the red zone and a shop wouldn't repair it...
     
  16. Jul 31, 2023 at 3:35 PM
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    Blacked out badges, window deflectors, smoked 3rd brake light. I have a Borla muffler on order as well as some color matched engine cover stickers. I'll be painting the stock wheels soon as well. Falken tires in the fall as well.
    Plugs get a bad rap but I've used them for over 40 years and never had one fail or even start leaking again. This one is pretty close to the edge but I would not have a problem with it. Shops will probably not patch one that close but I feel that's mostly because they want to sell you a tire.
     
  17. Jul 31, 2023 at 4:29 PM
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    Elka 2.5 DC 3" lift, SPC UCA's, Toytech rear springs, ARB Diff Breather, RSG Rock Sliders & front Skid. C4 front bumper with High Clearance sides and Warn Winch.
    Installed a Garmin Power Switch and if all goes well tomorrow, I'll get the C4 lo Pro bumper with high side additions and Washer tank cover installed. I have a 30" Baja Designs light bar going in it as well as upgrading the stock fog lights to Baja Designs too. I wanted to get the Garmin in before so I can run the light bar and Fog lights to it and control them from my phone. [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  18. Jul 31, 2023 at 5:38 PM
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    The angle of the allen wrench has me a little sketched out. It was pointed towards the shoulder/sidewall. If it holds air the rest of the week I won’t worry about it.
     
  19. Jul 31, 2023 at 5:54 PM
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    How did things go?
     
  20. Jul 31, 2023 at 5:59 PM
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    You'll be fine I bet!

     
  21. Jul 31, 2023 at 6:03 PM
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    Well not good but not done yet they low balled me on my trade but have come up some and they’re not moving the price of the 4 Runner. So I walked out!
     
  22. Jul 31, 2023 at 6:07 PM
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    Good on ya
    My old man passed away when I was a younger man, but I brought my father in law with me when I bought new in 2016 and he absolutely crushed the dealership negotiators. Pays to stand firm
     
  23. Jul 31, 2023 at 6:36 PM
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    End of month... Sales quotas... Prices may be softening...
     
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  24. Jul 31, 2023 at 7:06 PM
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    Just bought my Toyota VSA from Jerry Johnson at Midwest Toyota. 35 years of new car buying and I never bought one before.

    For $11.66 a month, whatever was covered under my 3-year/36,000 mile warranty is now a 10-year/100,00 mile plus even more. It even covers roadside assistance, gas delivery hotels and rentals if there's a problem that pops up while traveling.

    To think, my dealership was starting at over $4,400.
     
  25. Jul 31, 2023 at 7:07 PM
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    nice rig - love that AG. Are these the "Smoked Amber" raptor lights or standard amber? also - What brand and size tires are those?
     
  26. Aug 1, 2023 at 6:50 AM
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    Well, if you by chance have cell service and maybe even without you can use your phone an App like Altimeter and it seems to work pretty well. I have checked it again my GPS as a number of times and they are rather close.
     
  27. Aug 1, 2023 at 6:54 AM
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    What is the total cost it is $11.66 over two or three years? Can anyone contact Jerry Johnson on this deal and if so do you contact info? I believe you can still sign up for extended warranty in the first year owning a new 4R.
     
  28. Aug 1, 2023 at 8:07 AM
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    Jerry Johnson 800-530-5789 he will call back from his cell phone, usually.

    The $11.66 is monthly over the 10 years that the vehicle service agreement is in effect. Toyota Financial Services treats this as an insurance policy of sorts. As I joked with them inaccurately, it's the price of two caramel ribbon crunch frappuccinos from Starbucks a month. It's actually less! I buy the big ones and those are $6.25 each.

    Since Toyota handles the warranty from date of purchase and it won't lower the price if you buy it up to 3 years or 36,000 miles into the car's life, I bought it immediately. What could happen is the price can go up because, as we've seen through the political wranglings in this country, everything's getting more expensive by design. I doubt prices will be dropping for hard goods.
     
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  29. Aug 1, 2023 at 8:09 AM
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    I bought 2 extended warranties in recent months from Jerry. Anyone can buy one before the 3 year/36k factory warranty expires.
     
  30. Aug 1, 2023 at 8:21 AM
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    Allocation comes out Thursday we’ll see what happens
     

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