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Can't find the fuse for the cigarette lighter in my 2023.

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by stumpknocker, Jan 14, 2023.

  1. Jul 13, 2023 at 1:28 PM
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    steelevo

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    Edit on July 14, 2023 for diode recommendation

    Wiring a relay is super easy. You'll have 5 pins on the relay but will only use 4 of them for raptor lights. You wire pin 30 directly to the positive terminal on the battery and make sure that you have an inline fuse to this wire, close to the battery (this will protect against any short circuits damaging your battery and the fuse should be whatever your auxiliary lights recommend). Wire pin 87 directly to the positive lead on your raptor lights (once the relay coil is energized, this will connect directly to pin 30). Ground pin 85 directly to the chassis. Run pin 86 to whatever positive trigger wire or fuse tap location that you want. Diode isolate this to run current from the trigger to the relay (this trigger is what will energize the coil and open the circuit between pin 30 and 87). Make sure that you are running the correct gauge wires for your application. So many people run super thin wires that overheat and melt, which in turn cause short circuits and issues down the road. This is also easily reversible if you need to take it to the dealer for service.
     
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  2. Jul 13, 2023 at 1:33 PM
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    If you’re going to start describing pins on the relay, you ought to specify the diode and how it’s hooked up. And wire gauge too.
     
  3. Jul 13, 2023 at 1:41 PM
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    Good point.

    Here is an article that explains diodes. It's an easy read for just about anyone. https://www.build-electronic-circuits.com/what-is-a-diode/

    Relay diagram to help with pin layout.
    Driving_light_relay_wiring_diagram.png

    For raptor lights, I would use 12 gauge wire to the battery and 14 gauge everywhere else. Wire gauge will really be dependent on the amperage draw and what you're trying to power. the higher the draw, the heavier gauge wiring that you'll want to use. Your ground and trigger wires will typically have low draws because they are only energizing the coil.


    If anyone is in Utah and needs help, I'm always more than happy to give a helping hand.
     
  4. Jul 14, 2023 at 10:43 AM
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    @steelevo: I know about diodes. I’ve got a full set of moldering Forest Mims books. I know my way around a 555 timer chip, and the resistance-capacitance relationship. I know the significance of PNP vs NPN junctions. I built my own Heathkit VOM in 9th grade. I’ve plumbed the deepest depths of antique Volkswagen wiring. Deeper perhaps than any man alive!

    But even with all those sterling qualifications I still can’t figure out for the life of me why I’d put a diode between pin 87 and the Raptor lights. Can you explain? (Slowly, and with short words please.)
     
  5. Jul 14, 2023 at 10:54 AM
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    steelevo

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    Thank you for helping me get my head out of my a**. I corrected the diode instructions and moved it to pin 86 to prevent any unwanted voltage from going back to the trigger wire. The fuse by the battery will protect against any shorts from the raptor light power feed.


    I haven't used a 555 timer in a very long time and am still impressed with it today. The day I find a nice and affordable 60's transporter restoration project, I'm going to pick your brain on the wiring.
     
  6. Jul 14, 2023 at 11:30 AM
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    Okay thanks that makes total sense to me. So how would you implement that diode? Would you use an inline fuse holder and use one of these?
    [​IMG]

    Haha. Right after you find Bigfoot riding a unicorn.
     
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    Hey, there's compatible fuses all over the place especially for 12v just research this website a little deep.

     

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    That is a pretty cool fuse diode! I'm used to soldering a basic diode. Diode amperage will depend on what is being powered and amperage draw.
    Diode.jpg




    [/QUOTE]Haha. Right after you find Bigfoot riding a unicorn.[/QUOTE]

    I'd have a better chance of seeing Bigfoot selling me one. Lol.
     
  9. Jul 15, 2023 at 5:46 PM
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    Ah. Evidently you too have gazed into the abyss.
     
  11. Jun 29, 2024 at 2:19 PM
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    June 2024: so did anyone find the correct fuse(s) for the three “cigarette lighter outlets” in a 2023 4Runner Trd off-road premium? I read where the electrical engineer thought that the fuse he found that said P/outlet went to the rear outlet, but then someone said that there’s only one fuse that in the same circuit for all three outlets, so I wonder if someone has removed the P/outlet fuse and tried to use each of the three outlets. Thanks!
     
  12. Jun 29, 2024 at 6:14 PM
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    I just pulled the p/outlet fuse on my 22 ORP and it did indeed disable all three 12v outlets.
     
  13. Jun 29, 2024 at 6:15 PM
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    Excellent! Thanks for taking one for the team
     
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    IMG_3606.jpg In my 2023 ORP, the "cigarette lighter" is called the Power Outlets. The fuse box lid shows a 7.5 A fuse for P/Outlet NO. 2.
     
  15. Jul 1, 2024 at 10:36 AM
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    I’m fairly certain that relates to the AC outlet in the cargo space and is unrelated to the three cigarette lighter outlets.
     
  16. Jul 1, 2024 at 10:40 AM
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    This is from my 2023 TRD-Off Road Premium fuse cover under the driver side dash.
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