Is this a Deal or Not (Help!)

2023 TRD ORP Color Im looking for.

MSRP 52,480
Discount 2,720.13
Adjusted price 49,759.87
Appearance package 1,995 * (Dealer)
*(Lifetime window tint, wheel locks, clear shield on hood, all door edges, behind door handles)
Cal Converter Theft Shield 1,895 (Dealer)
Total Price 53,649.76
Trade in 47,000 paid-off (CarMax value 45,000)
Cash 7,300
Total out the door 54,300

The vehicle in on the transport and due to arrive in a few days. They want me to sign the papers now and give them a $7,300 check. And when the vehicle arrives I give them my vehicle.

My wife and I really don't feel comfortable doing that. Any recommendations

 

knock off the appearance package and cat shield and i'd call it a deal.

 

Look outside of the Gulf States and Southeast Toyota regions and you will find much better deals. Also, knowing what you're trading in will help.

 

What brand are those cat shields? What if it gets messed up in transport? Did you ask that question? Is the money refundable if the truck arrives damaged?

Here in Denver MSRP is $47.6K - In N Blue

 

Not sure brand. Not sure about the damage issue, I did ask when it arrived and i decided I didn't like it could i get a refund he said yes (verbal). But you never know it could get sticky.

MSRP 46,580
Manufacture installed options
Keep it wild -750
Roof Rack Cross bars 229
Conn Kit 75
LED Bulb upgrade 199
Off-Road Upgrade package 3,499
Vehicle Protection Premium Package 599
Rear cargo organizer 159
Center Console Safe 395
TOTAL MSRP 52,480

 

i'd prob sign that if they'd ditch the LED Bulb upgrade and possibly the vehicle protection package if i knew what that is.

 

If you proceed, I’d have them give you that verbal promise in writing. It’ll help you relax about it.

 

always get it in writing that you get your money back, and be specific about what for (condition, don't like, etc). CYA. I would only give required deposit until you viewed it. Or record the verbal agreement on your phone's video camera or something. Always CYA, or you WILL be thrown under the bus.

 

Lol. They give you a discount of 2k then screw you for 4K on the appearance package and cat shield.

 

Actually 2,720 discount plus 2,000 increase in trade-in value.

 

What about TTL? That needs to be included in the out the door total. I agree with others - the 'cat protection' price is outrageous.

 

Has the dealer said if any of the add ons can be removed or non negotiable? Buying a new car now is a different animal. New games keep coming up.

 

I agree, unless those are things you want. Apart from that, it looks OK.

I signed papers on mine when it was in transit, but only had to put down a $500 (non-refundable) deposit.

 

Listen to your gut. It's telling you something.

 

LOL, not sure that was for me, since i didn't mention price. But i see where the conversation was going.

 

Bottom line, it's YOUR pocket book. If YOU think it's a deal, it is.

Just protect yourself and money with those verbal promises and them wanting the paperwork signed before it even arrives. Red flags in my head, but just my 2 cents.

 

To me it's not. Appearance package, cat guards are grossly overpriced. No need to put a huge deposit. Good dealers will take $500 for a deposit. Walk away.

 

MSRP 52,480
Discount 2,720.13
Adjusted price 49,759.87
Appearance package 1,995 * (Dealer)
*(Lifetime window tint, wheel locks, clear shield on hood, all door edges, behind door handles)
Cal Converter Theft Shield 1,895 (Dealer)
Total Price 53,649.76
Trade in 47,000 paid-off (CarMax value 45,000)

Tax 415.62
Dealer Doc Fee 149
Non Tax Fee 285.51
Trade-in Difference 6,449.87
Total Cash 7,300

Total out the door 54,300

 

$7,300 check up front is ridiculous, maybe $1-2k deposit and put it in writing for sure!

No legitimate dealer is going to do a verbal deal period. I am no attorney but as I recall from the law section of my cpa exam no legal agreement for $500 or more is enforceable by law if it is not in writing. It is just smart to get it all in writing. Personally I would walk as it sounds like some bs pacakages in there anyway.

Trust me there is another dealer out there willing to get you one, not screw you over (as much) and put it in writing.

 

Agreed

 

Without any details on your trade, it’s difficult to say that you’re actually getting good money for it. The rest of the deal isn’t really good.

 

the cat shield is probably a miller cat shield.

https://catshield.com/products/millercat-2014-2022-toyota-4-runner-4-0l-cat-shield

 

This is what Gulf States and Southeast Distributors put on.

 

Paid $51K 8/21 CarMax offered me $45K, Dealer offered me $47K

 

Year, make, model, mileage, condition, etc?

Sounds as if you have already bought the new one and maybe want to justify the purchase?

 

Nope...this Silver 4Runner would be for me. Two weeks ago bought my wife a White TRD ORP and like it so much I want one too.

Here's the link to that post
https://www.4runners.com/threads/wifes-new-baby.31572/

 

So dealer wants $1500 - $1600 to install a $300 - $400 (stainless steel) part...? That takes maybe an hour to install...

 

How much do you owe on the current car? In may be misreading, but $47k “paid off” reads as if they’re paying off your current vehicle note and you have either no equity or you’re upside down in it.

Agree with some others, I wouldn’t take that vehicle protection package and cat shield option as those grossly overvalued prices. If they did away with those, fine.

Im also in the camp that a $500 deposit to lock in the sale is far more reasonable.

I bought my brand new ORP with those same gulf states add ons (off-road upgrade package, black emblems and cargo carrier) in San Marcos. MSRP was $51k and they were firm there, but no other wonky add ons. Three people tried to buy it while I was there. I pay cash for all my stuff, so not sure if they had better financing rates, but I liked that they were straight forward on the price with no other “protection” add ons.

From what you typed up, I’d “personally” walk away unless they ditch those two add ons. There’s a number of fair dealers in TX that won’t do that stuff.

 

My vehicle is Paid-Off

What dealers are those if you don't mind me asking?