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Trading Pilot for 4Runner

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by boodagazelle, Feb 12, 2023.

  1. Feb 12, 2023 at 6:39 AM
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    boodagazelle

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    I have a 2015 Honda Pilot with about 102K miles, along with my 2016 4Runner. Both are excellent vehicles, but the wife and I both like Toyotas better. Would it be crazy to trade the Pilot for a 4Runner? It would mean getting a much older vehicle, based on the prices I see here in the greater Tampa area. For example recently I got an email from Autotrader for a 2010 for $18999. Even if I really liked the 4Runner, and assuming I made an even swap without adding more money, it is hard to get over the idea of trading a great Honda that I already own (with no problems) for a much older Toyota.

    Given the prices I see for 4Runners, pretty much anything would be a similar tradeoff based on the year.

    Should I just keep the Pilot? Any ideas or experiences welcome.
     
  2. Feb 12, 2023 at 7:07 AM
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    I traded in my 2011 Pilot for a 2022 4Runner. Not exactly what you’re describing but one thing to consider is that known issue with the Honda engine with oil consumption. Also the 2015 has the issue with the fuel injectors. It’s a tough call for you. I can’t believe what they want for a 2010.
     
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  3. Feb 12, 2023 at 8:09 AM
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    wdsteven

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    $18999 sound just like a dealer a tad high unless the miles are under 170K and clean title, average price here with 170K miles run from $16,000 to $17900
     
  4. Feb 12, 2023 at 8:18 AM
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    4runningMan

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    What’s your pilot worth if you sell to private buyer?
     
  5. Feb 12, 2023 at 8:29 AM
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    boodagazelle

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    I haven't gone that far yet. but a quick check on Autotrader shows 3 around $20K. Not sure if that is for private sale or n ot.
     
  6. Feb 12, 2023 at 8:42 AM
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    Thatbassguy

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    If it's what you want, and it suits your needs, I say go for it. But, if you think you'd like to keep one vehicle that's a bit more civilized and efficient, maybe check out a Highlander. :notsure:
     
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  7. Feb 12, 2023 at 10:37 AM
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    We have a 2013 Honda Pilot Touring with 185,000 miles and it has been a good vehicle. I personally don't care for it, it was my wife's previous vehicle and one of my son's drives it now. I feel the the Pilot is more mini van like and the 4R is more truck like. Aside from my dislike of it personally, it has been a good problem free vehicle for us.
     
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  8. Feb 12, 2023 at 10:55 AM
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    Captain Spalding

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    When considering the purchase of a car older than 5 years I tend to ignore the model year and look at the odometer reading as a percentage of the vehicle’s useful life, and then assess based on my driving habits how many years I can get out of it and then calculate the cost per year.
     
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  9. Feb 12, 2023 at 12:05 PM
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    That is still a possibility. I could spend more but don't want to if I don't have to.
     
  10. Feb 12, 2023 at 12:06 PM
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    I agree. Although Toyotas and Hondas both should last a very long time in terms of mileage, I still look for something
    not much over 100,000.
     
  11. Feb 12, 2023 at 12:07 PM
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    We really like our 2016, so I would probably not get older than that, even if I have to pay more.
     
  12. Feb 12, 2023 at 12:28 PM
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    glwood54

    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

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    Is the Pilot AWD? If not you might replace it with a comparable 2WD 4R and save there.
     
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    You already own a 4Runner and know the differences between the 2 vehicles. Are you wanting a second 4Runner or are you looking for something like the Pilot that Toyota makes? A direct comparison to the Pilot would be the Highlander if you want a unibody Toyota SUV.
     
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    We like the Pilot, but both would rather have another 4Runner. This whole thread was really trying to ask: what range of 5th Gen model years should I look at, or conversely, to avoid? We may simply sell the Pilot and wait to find a 4Runner that we like. I feel very lucky to have found my current 4Runner... see photo.
    4Runner.jpg
     
  15. Feb 12, 2023 at 12:55 PM
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    It would help to know what kind of "trim" you are wanting and a budget for what you are wanting to spend. Have you looked into the values of your Pilot?

    This link should go over the differences in the 5th-gen section. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner
     
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    Am I the only one to notice OP have the wrong part running board on the 4Runner? That's the wrong running board for a SR5/TRD ORP.
     
  17. Feb 12, 2023 at 1:13 PM
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    Yeah, pretty much a common problem for 3rd gen pilots and have 2nd hand experience with this since couple of my friend got 3rd gen Pilots and one friend even got the fuel injector failure twice. If I'm not mistaken the letter from Honda said this is covered for 10year/150,000miles for the original owner. I think the root cause is Pilot having only direct injection and Toyota use dual injection (both direct and port).
     
  18. Feb 12, 2023 at 1:21 PM
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    Thanks to all for the suggestions. My interest is really only pointing to ones we see and saying "I like that one". I am a very unsophisticated owner. In the past we have had both Rav4s (3) and a Tacoma. As for my 4Runner, I bought it "as is"... but I like the look very much. I am embarrassed (at least here) to say I don't even know all of the trim details. It is certainly possible that the previous owner added some items. I will review all that has been posted, and after (if) I sell the Pilot will proceed further.
     
  19. Feb 12, 2023 at 1:34 PM
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    There is so many differences in 5th gen 4Runner world. Let me start with a main item like the 4WD system.

    I got my wife a 4Runner Limited because it has full time 4wd so she can drive winter or summer without worrier about selecting 2wd / 4wd. We had SR5 with part time 4wd with a selectable rotating switch which is very easy to switch to 4wd. But one day my wife didn't do that and skidded on ice on 2wd, but lucky nothing happened and no one was on the other side of the road.

    On my TRD it has a manual shifter type 4WD selector and its very hard for my wife to use.

    I like to take TRD offroad because it has more offroad tech than the SR5 & Limited. But after getting used to it most of the time I just use A-trac which is standard across the board when needed and other tech is there just in case. A-trac help me to improve my driving offroad as well.

    If anyone ask why not give my wife an AWD vehicle? In the past we had AWD vehicles and I love 4WD because it not reactive. Regardless your foot on gas or not you have 4WD. Even when you apply brakes is has more control than AWD vehicle which is more of a 2wd when foot is off the gas pedal.
     
  20. Feb 12, 2023 at 1:47 PM
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    What a coincidence. Was in exactly same boat.
    @boodagazelle

    However, my rationale was different.
    Sold a smooth AWD 2012 Honda Pilot with 96K miles to get the 2022 4Runner.

    I wanted an SUV that holds value. T4R fits that bill

    The Honda VCM and the fuel injector issues played a part. However, I was able to bypass those issues on the Pilot by installing a diode that fools the ECU/PCM about the radiator ambient temp. Thereby VCM and foul plugs was avoided

    Trading a 2015 Pilot for a T4R Part Time 4WD 2010 seems odd.

    Keep the Pilot. But ensure WaterPump. TimingBelt/Chain and tuneUp is done immediately.

    Or trade the Pilot for a newer model T4R
     

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