"you don't need a lift for 33's" prove me its REAL (Practical) or just a THEORY

As stated. First hard dip in a turn or going off road and you will quickly find out your theory is busted. You didn't clear anything. The amount of travel stays the same. Enjoy your perceived tire clearance. Watch out for them dips!

 

My lift gave me all the clearance I need...

 

Did you get an alignment after you put the lift on?

 

It sounds you’re not looking to actually clear the tire, you just want to be able to commute on road without it rubbing.

 

All additional info i shared deleted. Not worth sharing with the folks. Just kept the test results on post #1 so I can share on a post who is looking to put 33s with no lift.

 

Nice. Deleted all evidence of your inability to comprehend how suspension works and ignore multiple people trying to educate you. Now you’re going try and use this thread as your source of truth to perpetuate your incorrect ideas. Seems on brand for how this thread went. What a pointless thread

 

Post #1 has now everything you need, please continue all you want.

Also none of other peoples comments were deleted.

Many peoples comments are pointless too. Says one thing "you don't need a lift for 33's" and do another, everyone running 33s with lifts.

Atleast I showed what ever I can on my own 4Runner.

 

what a train wreck

 

What you're not getting is both can be true.

You don't need lift for 33's

-AND-

Almost everyone runs a lift with 33's.

It just so happens that people who want bigger tires also want some lift.

Why is that so hard to understand?

 

Also, you did not include caster numbers in your first post.

That's a very important piece of information that your are choosing to ignore.

Caster # in pic 1 and Caster # in pic 2........for the members of the forum.

 

He doesn't care.

It's been explained in several posts, and there's even a video in your post #27.

I'm not sure why anyone would be so dead set on arguing against verified facts, and attempting to mislead others.

It seems like everyone (not really everyone) is bored and argumentative lately. I've seen a lot of people arguing just to argue here lately, including myself. In my defense, I admitted when I was wrong.

 

...along with application wheel offset and width for others.

The OP ignored or dismissed every input with information regarding independent front suspension design, engineering and function as "theory". The whole thing belongs in the trash heap.

 

Exactly this. Well said!

 

Personally I’ve never understood the “biggest rubber” race everyone plays.

 

I have been in to bigger tires for 50+ yrs. If you pay attention to how they go over different types of terrain, not just off road but even on the pavement, you would see, and feel the difference. Just an old fart’s opinion, but hey, to each there own.

 

I totally understand the purpose but most people don’t wheel to the point where it matters or at all. They just want 99s for the mall.

Also you can have the big tires but if they limit travel, do they really help?

 

Well, i would say the majority of the off road crowd would say they help.

 

Some folks like the look of large tires, and in my opinion, that alone is worth it. A 4x4 vehicle is really not a necessity for most parts of the world, so simply the fact that they/we chose this kind of vehicle means we get enjoyment out of it. I have no problem with appearance being a major driving factor for something people get enjoyment out of. I don't consider it fake, or a waste of money. As for performance, I think it's pretty easy to prove that a larger tire can go over worse terrain than a smaller one. A stock 4Runner tire will allow better off-roading than a stock Prius tire, even if all else was equal on the vehicles. To follow the same principle, a stock Unimog tire will go over more terrain than a 265/70R17.

My personal preference is for slightly larger than stock, but not so large that performance of the vehicle is too negatively affected in any way. I think that's why so many folks in Tacos and 4Runners gravitate towards 33's. They allow for a slight improvement in both performance and appearance, without requiring drastic changes to the vehicle.

 

After seeing all the deleted posts in this thread, I can safely say that Post #2 is the most informative in the entire thread, and hopefully anyone interested in putting 33's on their 4Runner will skip Post #1 and go to Post #2.

 

They don't limit travel, unless you go so big that they're hitting the fenders before the control arms hit the bump stops.

It seems pretty logical that a bigger tire is better for climbing over obstacles. It's obviously not the only factor, though.

The thing that seems to get missed a lot is that it's not just about adding clearance. A bigger contact patch improves traction, and also provides flotation. These were the factors that I was mostly interested in.

But, I'm not going to lie and say that I don't like the look, also.

 

Sorry to contradict you Fritz, but peanut butter works fine with a double edge razor. It’s when you start up with the twin blade razor that the whole idea becomes impractical. As for being bait for animals… they’re all going to pass right by my peanut-butter-ladened face on their way to the bacon in the cast iron skillet.

 

Peanut butter is for the poors with SR5s. If you want to overland and fit 33s you need to shave with almond butter and use a diesel heater to pre warm it.

 

Thanks for the tip, Thurston.