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Stock TRD wheels with spacers.

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by JayyBee17, Jan 15, 2023.

  1. Jan 15, 2023 at 4:47 PM
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    JayyBee17

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    Whats up everyone new to this forum looking forward to checking out some cool 4Runners on here.

    I was curious to see if anyone had a picture of the stock TRD wheels (7 spoked polished) with wheel spacers on stock height. Very curious to see what it would look like I’ve though about doing it for my 4runner. If anyone has pics let’s see!
    Thanks!
     
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  2. Jan 15, 2023 at 5:29 PM
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    SlvrSlug

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    Welcome to the forum.
     
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  3. Jan 16, 2023 at 3:28 AM
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  4. Jan 16, 2023 at 4:23 AM
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    Are You talking Wheel Spacers or Lift Spacers?
     
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    Wheel spacers, sorry I should have said that.
     
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    Stock 265 tires on 1.25” spidertrax. Not until you upgrade to 285’s then they actually look good

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    OK Wheel Spacers do have a down side to them since they may result in more wear and tear on your suspension. When you set your wheels farther apart, there is more strain on your suspension components. Over time, this can damage components like wheel bearings and axles more so with the front of 4Wheel drive systems.
    It is not something that I would use for off road but if your just going after the "Looks" Sure they are relatively safe as long as you don't go too far or "stack" spacers and be aware of wheel rub may happen.
     
  9. Jan 16, 2023 at 5:29 PM
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    Hey OP, don’t listen to this dude. 61,000 miles on my spidertrax and a shit done of trails with no issues.
     
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    Each to their own maybe you just been lucky or? Did you not read what was said? Clearly did not understand it that is for sure here read this Part again see if you can figure out what it means "since they may result in more wear and tear on your suspension" See the Key Word there?

    I been working on Toyota's and other cars too long and have seen and repaired First hand the long term results of spacers because it does change the geometrics of the Front suspension and does so installing wheel spacers on a car increases the leverage on the wheel bearing. The larger the spacer, the larger the leverage becomes. This reduces the life of the wheel bearing as they are not made to take leverage forces and can therefore wear faster,
     
  11. Jan 16, 2023 at 6:35 PM
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    A shit ton of us run spacers and abuse our trucks. Quality spacers are fine
     
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    and how thick are you going? 1/2 inch? stacking them?
     
  13. Jan 16, 2023 at 6:52 PM
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    what are you talking about? We’re talking about wheel spacers.
     
  14. Jan 16, 2023 at 8:17 PM
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    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

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    Why is using a spacer any different than using wheels with a different offset to put the position of the wheel in exactly the same place? The wheel's still further out from the center of the vehicle. No one warns anyone about bearing wear when getting aftermarket wheels with negative offset.
     
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    upload_2023-1-16_22-53-54.jpg upload_2023-1-16_22-54-35.jpg
     
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    Because Negative offset is simply when the wheel/hub interface surface is closer to the inner side of the wheel than the outside. Even if you remove the wheel from the car entirely, the offset is still the same. It cannot change.
     
  17. Jan 17, 2023 at 6:44 AM
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    I know what negative offset is. That doesn’t answer my question. Why is moving the wheel outward via negative offset (say 1”) any different than using a 1” wheel spacer? In both cases the wheel is 1” further out.
     
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  18. Jan 17, 2023 at 3:51 PM
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    The Difference is Most off Set Rims are Properly made and the Loading point stays right at the original point on the hub where spacers extend the loading point out away from the Hub, Small good quality spacers will not matter much but we did fix a couple of Tacoma's that the guys put 2 inches on all 4 (stacked 1 inchers) and and one screwed both front Upper Control Arms ball Joints and the other took out his left rear axel bearing.

    Negative offset wheels are the perfect solution if you need a wide, aggressive stance for a truck, off-road rig, or high-performance car. When it comes to bigger tire fitment, you need either wheel spacers or negative offset rims.
    People will say it’s “better” to use offset wheels because spacers are dangerous That is not totally correct if you purchase properly made good quality spacer and make sure that they are properly mounted to clean surface and Good Spacer will have the Rim alignment ring too many cheap ones are just flat round rings or have very poor made wheel centering rings.

    I spoke up and said I do not recommend them because So many only look at the price "oh I can get these for 10 bucks and those they want 50 bucks.

    At the end of the day, most failures are caused by using cheap spacers or improper installation and with Negative off set wheels it is kinda hard to screw it up both will potentially cause increase wear on the full independent suspension systems over time.

    Anyways I am not totally against spacers I just don't like them due to the high number of junk ones available.
     
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    Spidertrax are hub centric which is really important on a spacer.
    I used to run spacers with my 93 corvette, which is a big deal as the rear bearings are part of the suspension load. No issues. They were hub centric, and I autocrossed and roadraced it with 315s in the rear.
     

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