Hurricane and electric vs gas

Even though your media is telling you EV's are taking over and ICE's are going away, it's not true.

ICE's and gas will be around a long time.

 

How much extra range did this provide? And, what potential long term damage is caused when the battery is run completely empty?

You can accomplish the same thing with an ICE vehicle by carrying a gas can.

 

@Thatbassguy i don’t recall the specifics , but in this case, every mile counts. There no immediate damage to the battery discharging to 0%. However, doing it regularly, will show some degradation in time.
yes, I agree. An ice car is probably a safer bet in this case. Can it be that charging time equates to waiting on line at the gas station ? For now, there are way more gas cars than EVs. A modern EV can get like 200 miles in 15 min or so.
Maybe the best for Florida is one ice one EV ?

 

I'd agree that having one of each is ideal. A plug-in-hybrid would be the best of both.

I don't think charging times would be the same as waiting for fuel, as you're probably waiting on others to charge. Plus, if everything is running on generators, you're probably only going to have a 120v outlet to plug into. So, charging times will probably be several hours.

 

Maybe some day! As of now you can do it, but it's many hours for a small amount of juice. I suspect that some EVs will incorporate solar to provide this option and help extend range too, but as of now solar is not super practical on such small scales. Now, solar farms are going to be a big part of the larger energy infrastructure. In fact that's already happening, as it can be cheaper than other forms of energy and is a no brainer in parts of the country with lots of sun.

At the end of the day, barring a huge breakthrough in fusion or some such, there's no alternative but to have multiple sources of power going into our grids (and/or direct into our homes). Gonna need solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, fossil fuels etc etc

 

I guess it depends on where you live. Here in Southern California (ground zero for electric cars) the frenzied adoption of wind and solar and the premature shutting-down of natural gas generation plants has led to days and weeks when we are asked to conserve electricity under threat of blackout. Times when “smart thermostats” are turned up to 78°F remotely by the powers that be, regardless of the desires of their owners. Times with rolling blackouts. And in recent years, days when electric car owners specifically are asked to refrain from charging their cars. We definitely need more generating capacity.

Not all electric cars are Teslas, and not all electric cars support that rate of charge. And whether or not one can charge one’s electric car while evacuating depends on whether the grid is operating.

You describe this task as if it were trivial. It’s not. Especially in older neighborhoods where a two-bedroom apartment is allotted only one parking space, and if the residents of that apartment own two cars, one must park on the street. So not only must every parking lot be outfitted, but every residential street as well. Building codes for many neighborhoods require buried power lines. To add street charging in those areas will require digging up the street. It’s not just a matter of stringing up 00 line for the last leg.

A fire after an accident is one thing. Spontaneous combustion is something else. I have a friend with a Chrysler Pacifica. He has a letter from Chrysler telling him not to park the car indoors, and to make sure no other cars are nearby when he’s charging it. I didn’t hear about that on the news.

There. I rebutted your remarks without the use of the words “dumb” and “ignorant”. It was easy. You should try it.

 

Capt Spalding--did I read that correctly that in CA your smart thermostat can be adjusted by other powers (outside of the owner of that thermostat)? If so wow!

 

I heard something about this happening in another state. But, if you looked at the article, it showed that those people were participating in a voluntary program to save money on their bill. So, who cares?

But, if it's mandatory, then that's bullshit. I'm curious now.

 

Is this mandatory? Or is this part of a voluntary program, like people were whining about a month or so ago?

 

Ya I can’t turn my heat on until it’s below 60 degrees outside. If I do it will not heat much and throws a lockout Code. I turned the thermostat’s wi-fi off. And if it acts up I call them and it magically works.

 

Glad I changed out my water heater with a huge State. Before they switched them to hybrids.

 

I’m tapped into the aquifer my well is 600 feet deep.

 

Thank you! A bunch of people were upset about it in Colorado (I think), But it was due to a program that they signed up for to save money. I couldn't figure out why they were complaining about it.

 

They prob Measure how much power you draw. Depending on time, date, and temperature.
I’m all electric and I don’t burn. Power bill was $88 last month.

 

These hurricanes are why my grandpa left St Pete’s and moved to Washington State.

 

I think the thermostat thing in Colorado is voluntary, but I think it’s really hard to unvolunteer once your in.

 

New California energy code requires building systems to be ready for demand response energy management

https://www.bdcnetwork.com/new-cali...ms-be-ready-demand-response-energy-management

 

It's a voluntary program.

The incentive being if you sign up for it, you pay a lower rate for your electricity.

 

I read an article a few months ago about a company in Japan that was a startup. It has a subscription model where you would pull into a charging station and a tech would jump out and swap batteries. Then you drive away and they charge it up for the next person. Feels like 50’s era full service gas stations but I love it! A new job that would be created is what I really love.

 

That's like the other one I was reading about. People were all outraged, but it's a voluntary program. Maybe they should have read the fine print.

 

What I’m imagining is a facility that replaces the corner gas station, which resembles a car wash - you drive onto a conveyor and as you move along a robot removes the battery from beneath the car and shuttles it off to the charging rack to be recharged. Then as you proceed along the conveyor a second robot installs a fresh battery that has just been pulled from the charging rack. Then you drive off the conveyor and continue on your merry way, having spent less time than the average gasoline fill up.

For this to happen would require a standardization of EV batteries across many different auto manufacturers, and the construction of numerous battery stations, and while the prospect of that is daunting, I think it is less so than rewiring the whole country to accommodate EV charging at every parking space.

 

Kind of like student loans. ;-)

But seriously, if California is requiring that new and retrofitted AC systems include smart meters, it seems likely that there’s an intent for the smart meters to be made use of.

 

Yeah, it does seem weird to mandate those things. In commercial settings, energy code is nothing new. Hopefully it doesn't become the norm for residential dwellings as well.

 

Around where I live there are a few stations that run off generator when necessary. It’s funny to see darkness everywhere and one island of light. Not sure if they run cash-only or have provisions for CC payment.

 

I was curious, what kind of CAI works best on an EV?

 

K&N claims their cold air electron ram adds 20 volts.

 

‘nuff said.

 

Lol. In truth though we’d be much better off if we could move a lot of electric production to the home or business, or at least to micro grids. The current system of massive grids transporting power by wire over many miles, with a handful of transformer facilities that are integral to making it all work — that’s nutty. Huge national security vulnerability. Awfully precarious given how much the economy and even public health relies on electricity. Certainly a fixable problem, but also a big one.