Toyo AT3

Tested out the AT3s that Discount Tire installed yesterday on my new ORP on the dirt roads in my neighborhood. The dirt roads have a layer of sheet ice covered by a thin packed layer of snow. The Toyos did pretty well in 2WD with just a little tire slip one time starting uphill after a stop. Otherwise no problems. It was a nice surprise. I think the packed layer of snow helped a lot.

 

I have these tires as well and have performed quite nicely. The only slip I've had was also starting uphill from a stop on a highly graveled fire road. Threw into 4WD and there wasn’t the slightest slip to be felt. More people need to ditch their thinking that these are similar to the old AT II’s. These are in a completely different class.

 

I'm happy with these as well! I have LT285/70/17's in load range C. If I had known I was going to buy another set of wheels and MT's for summer shenanigans, I would have bought the SL version.

 

We get more rain than snow so I've been looking for a wet weather tire.

 

Lots of information/reviews in here:

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/new-toyo-open-country-a-t-iii-tire.655094/page-74

 

Trying to figure out the difference between these. Obviously 1 set will be cheaper and lighter (which I like). I will only be running these in the spring- fall as I have dedicated winter tires.

 

To say it simply: the C rated are going to be more durable

 

The difference is the cheaper one is an SL tire and the more expensive one is a C rated tire. If you use your 4Runner mostly as a daily driver and tamed off-roading on fire roads..the SL tires are what you want. If you do off-roading where there are sharper rocks and not so manicured trials, you want the C rated tires.

 

So better for trails and rocks which is what I will be doing. Copy that.

 

The load range C is an LT tire, so it should have a beefier sidewall, and tougher construction. Some find this to be a good middle ground for mostly on-road use with some off-roading.

The SL version would be fine for mild off-road use as well. I also believe the SL version of these tires has more siping, which is mostly beneficial to snow traction. So, that's not really a benefit to you.

I would get the SL, unless you're going to off-road a lot.

 

Yup. If you're doing a lot of trails, the added durability is probably worth the extra money.

 

yes, but…..

a lot of us run SL tires without issues. I live in hill country Texas and we have sharp rocks. I’ve never had an issue. But, if I didn’t commute as much as I do, I’d move to a higher load tire.

 

Same here. I run these exact tires in SL and off-road a little bit, but 95%+ of my driving is on-road as a commuter. If I commuted less, I would also invest in some C or E load tires. However the Toyo OC ATIII’s in SL are no slouch and have never let me down on a trail.

 

It’s mainly my daily driver, but we definitely hit some challenging trails in this. Steel Pass in Death Valley for example.

 

I use these in load range C for fall/winter/spring and have taken them in the rocks. I'm very happy with them overall!

 

That looks fun!

 

It was! I can't wait to do it again!

 

Hi! I’m considering Toyo Open Country A/T III in the stock size of 265/70/r17 which means my choices are E1 and SL. I do mostly street driving, with the very occasional off road. What would y’all suggest? I’ve also looked at Grabber ATX and KO2.

 

I have these tires in SL and do the same kind of driving that you do. I love them and I’ve never felt that I didn’t have good enough tires when I’m off road. These will be a significant improvement from stock tires, if that is what you currently have.

 

3 similar'ish tires.

Toyo A/T III in SL would be better choice for commuting regularly. The E has a higher side wall belt count, making it much stiffer, thus harder riding on the roadway. Plus its heavier, which makes a difference with acceleration. These are really growing in popularity in a lot of offroad circles with the newer design.

General Grabber X3 is an excellent tire. 54lbs is a lot of weight but great protection for serious trails. A lot of international overland guys run this because of its availability globally and in small towns around South America. Again, overkill for a daily driver. The A/Tx is a nice all round tire, but a nice weight of 43lbs. Best price point right now.

BFG KO2 is probably the most popular tire here. It comes in both C and E loads in the 265/70/17. You would want the C load which comes in pretty light at 46lbs for C. Looks wise, its the most aggressive appearing, but with my experience, also the most functional in anything but thick mud which it has trouble shedding mud or light rain on roadways where the firmer rubber can be slippery.

 

Yes, I currently have the stock dunlops. Thanks for your help.

 

Would you go with the Toyo AT III SL or the BFG KO2 C?

 

I dont know how well the Toyos last. My last set of 265/70/17 C load KO2's lasted 54k miles and I only got rid of them becasue I was going up in size. Probably had another 10-15k miles left on them. They do get louder with increased mileage over ~40k miles.

Price point, the KO2's have gotten expensive. I'd give the AT III in SL a try. However, after this winter I am more than likely moving to the General Grabber. I am going to Patagonia next year. It would be nice to find the tire I need without being stuck waiting a week or more for a tire to show up.

 

I have them in load range C, and have also had KO2's in load range C.

For what you're describing, I'd stick to SL. I'd probably go with the Toyos over the KO2's, but both are good tires. I have no experience with the Grabbers, but I hear good things about them, as well.

 

I can’t speak to the KO2’s but I have the Toyo AT3’s, SL in 265/70-17. I drive 80 miles a day on the interstate, round trip for work. I’m always right around 80 mph + or - 5 mph and these tires are quiet and very comfortable. They’re a night and day difference from the Bridgestone Duellers that were OEM, no comparison the Toyo’s are far superior. Also, they excel at wet weather driving which is a routine thing here in Florida although that may not be applicable for your needs.

 

Thanks for the info. It’s really dry here in Las Vegas, but when it does rain the roads get slick.

 

I actually have these in 285/70R17 E load. I really love these tyres, even though they are a little on the heavy side. They handle well in wet weather, and even off-road conditions. As mentioned earlier, Texas has a lot of sharp rocks, hence my going with the E. I recommend them highly.

Cheers,

Sean

 

I’m still riding on my stock Dunlops and have been pondering tires as well. I’m having trouble understanding the reasoning that says “If you are on pavement 95% of the time get the lighter tire.” To my thinking it should be “Get tires appropriate for the toughest trail you’ll subject them to.”

What say ye, friends?

 

For those of you running these Toyo AT3's, are we talking SL or E Load? Thanks

 

SL here. For a daily driver these tires are excellent. Much better than stock SR5 tires. Wet weather handling is exceptional. I love these tires.