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PRO-TRUCK LIFT SYSTEM (Stage 1)TOYOTA 4Runner 4WD E80-82-071-01-22

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  1. Dec 4, 2021 at 6:34 AM
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    I have it, although the pieces were bought separately and didn't come as a kit, but it's the same components. I'm quite pleased thus far (25,000 miles, some legit offroad). Eibach makes good stuff.

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    I saw 2.5" front and then a tiny bit of sag when I installed a winch. It was dead level without the winch and it's maybe 1/8" +/- down in the front with the winch.

    I also have the kit in my Tacoma but that's a different forum.

    My OR-P was installed by a shop in Oregon when we lived out that-a-way
     
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  3. Dec 4, 2021 at 9:04 AM
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    Thank you Tech Support 24/7/365 I will have to look for pictures of your Rig :anonymous::D
     
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    Oh sorry. Here's a few. Don't really have any direct from the side on level ground though.

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    @MeefZah The kit was reasonably priced. I'm on a budget. Ty for the pictures.
     
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    I have that lift on my 2019 with spc upper control arms (not sure i needed them really)

    installed with a friend at home. went smooth. I haven't beat on it much, but it rides nice and hasn't given me any trouble. also helped with dive during hard braking.
     
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    I installed the kit with JBA Uca very easy to install check Youtube for install, the only picture I have.

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    Yeah my point was that by piecing it together I think you can save money. The coils you can buy as Wheeler's house brand as the T1 and T13 (front, rear respectively) but these are the same Eibach coils just painted black. The struts / shocks can be bought a la carte, too. But either way it's a nice value. You don't need UCAs. Budget for an alignment and do it after about 300-500 miles so the coils settle first. I could have done it myself if I really put some interest into it but it was easier for me and done better by Mike's Toys. Took them like 90 minutes!
     
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  10. Dec 5, 2021 at 4:45 AM
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    Pinstripes, lots of em. Plus a couple dents.
    If you are going to do lots of off roading, I recommend adding taller Eibach bump stops to this kit.
    I blew my rear Eibach Shocks of my Pro Lift on a set of steep ledges. Just finally put replacement rear Eibach shocks and the bump stops in last week.

    https://eibach.com/us/2000/AK31-82-071-BMP-TOYOTA-4Runner-bump-stop-truck

    Ran the same trail yesterday - looks like the bump stops helped! No blown shocks.

    I had SPC upper control arms added when I moved up to 285 tires. If could be the heavier tires but the steering tightened up significantly in a good way.
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    Note I used BKS Trucks in Springfield, MO to install the Pro Truck Lift. They charged me $475 which included the wheel alignment.

    I had them put on the replacement rear shocks this last week. I debated having them crank up the front shock another notch but didn't. I have a lot of weight on the front and it would probably look better / more lifted on the 2nd notch.

    I worry about suspension travel though. I like lots of travel.
     
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    Thanks for insight on the bump stops . Good idea.
     
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  12. Dec 5, 2021 at 6:57 AM
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    I'm curious if anyone has installed this kit on a KDSS-equipped OR...
     
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    Yup, I have the compete Stage 1 Kit and have KDSS. I don’t do hardcore wheeling easy to moderate stuff only, I’m a novice so can’t make a comparison between other lifts. But it handles well for the stuff I do. In my opinion best bang for your buck kit out there. Eibach has been around for a long time making suspension stuff for race cars so they know what they’re doing and the Shocks have a great warranty.
     
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  14. Dec 5, 2021 at 2:16 PM
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    Installed by you or a shop? I'm curious, as I have the struts & shocks, self-installed, and think about completing the kit some time. All I need are the springs...
     
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    I had a shop install it. Only because I wasn’t sure about how to go about the KDSS but in hindsight I could’ve done it. The shop I used took them all of about a little more than an hour. They have a about 8 guys that jump on the install.
     
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    I have that Eibach kit installed and love it. Makes for a great ride and looks the way these things should look from the factory. I also put 285's on there.

    Smokies.jpg
     
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    Can you explain why taller bump stops work to protect the shocks? Kind of wondering if I should have done that when I got my dobs.
     
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    Pinstripes, lots of em. Plus a couple dents.
    Here's a a couple articles on their purpose.
    https://trail4runner.com/2021/07/10/4runner-bump-stops-complete-guide/
    https://timbren.com/n-144-a-guide-to-bump-stops-for-off-road-suspensions.html

    "Bump Stops are used to protect the vehicle when the suspension reaches full compression when encountering a bump or dip in the road surface. Bump stops are a top choice for rock crawlers, as they soften landings and prevent shocks from bottoming out."

    There is a trail I've been on 3 times now that has 3ft ledges. I can easily get the front tires on the ledge. To get the rear tires up I need to use momentum and bump the vehicle up the ledge. Pretty sure my suspension (shocks) bottomed out given the weight of my vehicle + Armor. Taller bump stops ought prevent that from happening.

    Figure I'd go with Eibach since the suspension is all Eibach.
     
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    Don't know what the guy who answered the phone at the 4by4 shop was smoking. But the labor quote was out of this world. :confused:
     
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    I got a crazy quote too. Probably means they have plenty of work. Lol
     
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    More avenues to explore no rush. Actually that was two shops.
     
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    Pinstripes, lots of em. Plus a couple dents.
    You might just see what your local Toyota dealer will charge to install it.
    Pretty much any general car repair / auto body shop with a lift ought to be able to install a vehicle suspension lift.

    I looked at doing it myself but figured it would take me forever plus spring compressors kind of scare me. It would really suck to have a coil spring launch through the wall of my house.

    When I blew my rear shocks, I was going on a road trip through Michigan's Upper Peninsula the following week. I brought my OEM shocks with me on the trip. Called a couple different 4x4 / repair shops in Michigan. None of them wanted the business.

    I finally made an appointment with a Toyota dealer in Traverse City MI who had no problem installing the rear OEM shocks. They charged me a total of $197.42 labor for the install. Which isn't bad at all. I figure $100 a corner for labor + alignment if doing the front.


    Couple videos on a Taco but the principles are the same:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E6u7dC7EHg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo0FJSi-KYs

    It's possible to damage ABS wires at each corner on our Toyotas if the lift is incorrectly installed.
     
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    One shop will do it they have the time. The other shop isnt taking any new projects until 2022. Price was quoted with an alignment.
     
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    Do you have a jack, jack stands and some basic tools?

    If so, do it yourself using the no spring compressor method posted above by @DRobs.

    It's pretty easy.
     
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    Im in no rush i will wait after the weather changes so i forget what i bought lol
     
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    I have this kit, and I installed it myself in my garage about a month ago. It took me about 8 hours by myself, probably would have been half that had I had another set of hands. The only real issue I had was the spring compressor I bought was a little thick, so I had an issue pulling it off my shocks once compressed but I managed.

    I also used a block of wood and factory bottle jack to push the drivers side rear down enough to allow me to get the new taller spring in.

    Initially I was going to try and get by without UCA's but after going to 285's, I bit the bullet and bought some Ironman Pro-forge UCA's that I just installed last Friday. That got my caster out to a positive 3.8, I'm happy with that.

    Overall, looks good, rides and corners better than stock, no more noise dive and leveled it out nicely. Pic is before the UCA's.

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    That color/wheel combo…looks so good.

    did the ironman uca clear the inside of the 285s? Those are beefy UCAs
     
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    How steep was it ? These shops dont deserve the buisness if they are price gouging.
     
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    My quote was 1k to install it. The guy giving me the quote kinda did it off the top of his head, and sounded rushed but also kinda apologetic at the same time. Good clue for me that it was a polite way of saying “were really busy”. I’d rather they have just told me it would be a while, but it is what it is.

    Ultimately installing front/rear shocks and springs cost me a weekend, a sore back, one bloody knuckle (on literally the last bolt, no joke), and a few beers to engage @Thatbassguy ’s services as honorary safety officer (which included lending me a big torque wrench)

    When I busted my knuckle, he said he saw it coming…. ;):rofl:
     
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