285's Any Regrets?

I’ve put about 5k miles on my DC Trail Country EXP and love them. I’ll be putting the same 285/70 on the FJ before my youngest takes it to college in a few months. It is Load E and might be a bit louder but they felt solid in some nice rain and snow this last winter.

 

You either commit or you don’t. If you’re worried about dropping MPG’s or loss of power stock size is better I’m on 295’s, e load and the gas pedal solves any issues that the bigger tires bring. I’d consider a regear at 35’s for sure though.

 

I did not feel any acceleration loss with Load E or Load C KO2s. Its just me don't feel confident with SL off-road but very comfy on road. Almost feel like stock all seasons.

One might say "even TRD Pro come with SL A/Ts" and my feeling is that's Toyota's attempt to get the cheapest tire to have the A/T on the window sticker and charge a hefty price for people who have no idea. On that line it's pathetic to see regular all season tire as spare tire, didn't even bother to spend extra $30-40 to get an A/T spare. And the A/Ts come with TRD Pro is just M+S. Good A/T tires like KO2/Wildpeak AT3W/Duratracs have 3pmsf rating.

 

How long many miles have you been running 285’s? I’m just want bigger tires for looks. Don’t need E loads or C for that matter. I’m getting the Ridge Grapplers.

 

I think since Feb 2019 15K miles on 285 load C. I started with 265 Load C then 275 Load E. (On TRD ORP)

285SL on the Limited are only few months. Very few miles with 2miles to work.

 

Why not just get what you want, and forget about it?

 

I’m trying to weigh the pros and cons.

 

Tick over 60k on my 285's, (ko2's) here.... Im looking for new tires now.

 

No regrets love my 285s

 

60K? Wow..!! I wasn't expecting a/ts to last that long. That's like all season tire miles. Good to hear that. Thanks for sharing your experience.

 

still running em,...

 

^ not even one letter?
Watched again just the other day lol

 

I noticed no one has mentioned 255? The 255 K02 is 32.1" 10"w and 46lbs. Roughly .5" shorter and narrower than their 285... and ready for it... 5lbs lighter! It will also tuck up in the factory spare location better than a 285

 

Hey Nimby, how do you like your Firstones? Any pictures? These are P-tires, correct? I'm about to buy some 285s and am looking for a P-rated since gravel is about all I'll see besides pavement on my '21 ORP. I notice the P285 Destination ATs are listed to weigh only 41 lbs, almost featherweight for the size. Also considering Yoko Geolander Ps at 45 lbs and Toyo ATIII Ps at 47 lbs. Figure the lower the weight, the less performance penalty I'll see from moving to the bigger diameter.

 

For those worried about MPG loss, when I put heavy tires on my 3rd Gen Tacoma i lost noticeable power and like 4MPG.

However, 265/70/r17 on 4Runner with Falken Wildpeak Load E, no real loss.
265/70/r17 on 4Runner with Nitto Terragrappler G2 P metric, no real gain.
265/70/r17 on 4Runner with BFG KO2 Load C, no real loss.
285/70/r17 on 4Runner with BFK K02 Load C, no real loss.

In other words, the 4runner is fairly consistent. Even speedo wasn't off with 285s.

Had a friend running 295's (34" ish) and we did some fuel tests with pump math (not trusting computer) and he got like .6MPG less than me, but he was in front of me so I'd count most of that as Aero drag.

It kinda just doesn't care.

A regear would help with 34+ tho.

 

I put about 17K on a set of 285/70/17 Toyo AT3's in load range C from April last year to January of this year. These were about 55# apiece if I recall correctly. Acceleration was fine. The only time I really noticed a power loss was at full throttle. It still went, just not as quickly. Fuel economy wasn't bad either. No regrets. I actually went bigger now.

KO2's are notorious for excellent treadwear. I put 29K miles on a set and had 12/32 of tread remaining, out of 15/32 new. I have heard of them lasting 80K+ miles. Rotating every 5K miles was key for me.

I highly recommend those tires! I had a set on my '03 4Runner and loved them. Very good in snow!

I am considering a set to replace my Toyo AT3's. They will be my fall/winter/spring tires.

 

Just to be clear, you're speaking of Geolander A/T GO15s, right? I've got the LT version on my Suburban and am impressed as well, which is why I'm considering for the 4R. They also happen to be about 1/2-inch narrower than other 285/70-17s I'm considering, which I'd think would help with rub issues.

 

Correct. And, I believe you're probably right about the rubbing. It must be a Yokohama thing, because the geolandar MTS that I have came in a pinch narrower then some of the other 295's I looked at as well.

 

Yeah! The Destination A/T's have been a fantastic tire (wet, dry, snow, dirt). I went with the P-rated version for the weight savings and did not notice any reduction in power.

I would definitely recommend these tires and would get them again; however, I'm the type of person that gets a different set of tires every time......just to mix it up and keep things spicy. So I'll get another set down the road at some point since I have zero complaints.

Here's my most recent picture. I wanna say they have roughly 40k miles on them in this pic.

 

Appreciate the input on the tires. Nimby, any rub issues with your Firestones? I'll be putting whatever I get on my stock Off Road wheels as well, and I notice the 'stones are almost 3/4-inch wider than the Yokos I'm also considering - 8.5 vs. 9.2 treadwidth though less difference in the section width - 11.2 vs. 11.5-inch. Same 32.8-inch diameter. Also like the stance of your rig, did you do anything to the rear, or is just the 1.6-inch Eibach setup in front? Thanks

 

Thank you!

No lift in the rear. I leveled it out with just the 1.6" lift in the front.

Rubbing issues will be mostly related to your tire size, wheel width, wheel offset, and alignment. With a relatively small lift up front combined with the stock offroad wheel offset (+15), I was still able to get 3.6* of caster out of my stock UCAs. From this, I'm able to push the tire forward in the wheel well to avoid rubbing on the mudflap or body mount towards the back of the wheel well. However, I did rub on the front fender liner and did some minor trimming up there. Super easy. If you need more explanation on this, I'm happy to give it.

More recently, I've added a 1.5" wheel spacer up front (and 1" in the back) to widen the track width a bit. Now I rub in the front while in reverse at full lock. As you increase the offset of the wheels (or move your tires further out), the more you have to do to mitigate the rubbing.

 

There goes the neighborhood.

 

I'm curious why the different front/rear spacer widths Nimby? What brand did you go with? Also besides the lift part, can you articulate how the Eibachs changed your ride quality in general? I guess something I read about the Eibachs made me think the lift they provided was something like 2.5-inch minimum. Obviously I must have misunderstood. Many thanks from a newbie.

 

I'm sure @nimby will have more information, but I believe Eibach offers numerous lift height options for both front and rear.

 

Looks great! Do you have any other poser pics?

 

Regarding the different sized wheel spacers.......when you lift the front of our vehicles, the track width will pull in further and further as you increase the lift height. I wanted to try and match the front and rear track width but I overshot the front end by a hair. So I'm a little wider up front than the rear. No big deal.......it doesn't hurt anything. But for reference, I'd say a 1.25" front wheel spacer and a 1" rear wheel spacer would match up pretty close with a 1.6" lift. Perhaps if I was closer to 2 or 2.5" of lift up front, a 1.5" front wheel spacer would match a 1" rear wheel spacer.

The Eibach shocks are firmer and more controlled than the stock shocks, but not stiff or jarring. Where the stock shocks can get a little bouncy, especially offroad, the eibachs will feel more stable. On road manners are still really nice and comfortable. I think our trucks should come with these shocks stock, to be honest.

When people talk about Eibach giving them a 2.75" lift in the front, they are talking about the Pro Truck Kit. That comes with adjustable front shocks, 2.75" front lift coils, rear 1" lift coils, and rear shocks. I just purchased their adjustable front shocks and used my stock front coils, stock rear coils, and stock rear shocks. There are different settings on the adjustable front shocks that allow you to lift the vehicle to different heights, like a Bilstein 5100.

 

Thanks!

No, not in its current form. The only other pics I have are at earlier stages.

 

Okay thanks, all that makes sense. I didn't realize Eibach offered something akin to the 5100.