SOLD...TRD PRO Suspension

I have for sale my complete fox suspension I took off my 2019 TRD PRO with 2,739 miles on the suspension. It has been sitting in my garage for over a year now so I guess it’s time to find it a new home. I am asking $1,600 for it and I am located in Denver. I would prefer to sell this locally but if you are in a neighboring state I would be willing to work something out.

 

You may be aware, but the rear springs and UCA's are the same across all part time 4WD 4Runners, so if you were to ship, save by not including them! Good luck with your sale.. best suspension out there for non-lifted 4Runners IMO!

 

DM me if you don't get any local interest - I'd like to have a conversation if you re-consider shipping and would send them to Portland, Or.

 

I am in the local area (Colorado Springs but able to pick up in Denver) and am interested. Please feel free to message me privately and we can discuss details. Thanks.

 

use the Trd Pro Shocks and the Eibach - E30-82-071-03-22 Pro Spring Set together along with doing the 8 inch Clamshell bushing on the 2019 and 2020 4Runner without that KDSS or install them on a TRD Pro 4Runner 2019 and 2020 as long as it has the Fox shocks that have not had the 2021 front shocks installed. Gained 1.60 inch more lift in the front and 1.0 inch lift more in the back over what the Trd Pro is already lifted at. handling is just fantastic, Sits very level now and for the $345 it is a great lift without any pucks or spacers, skilled DIY job however you best not use cheesy cheap spring compressor because the Eibach springs are a bit more than the average joe spring compressor is going to handle safely.

Also Make Sure that Your Front Shocks springs have the flat grind on them!

So if you want a good lift without changing the UCLA the Fox Shocks that are Pictured for sale in the OP's post with these springs could be a great way to go.

 

^ I wouldn't recommend that. The FOX TRD Pro suspension is position sensitive and thus the shocks are designed to be run at a set height.. the stock height. If one wants more lift than the TRD Pro has, their money is better spent elsewhere.

 

You are Partially correct if you just Slap anything in yes it could mess things up However I did Do My Homework because I do not just Slap shit in and go and that included consulting with Fox Shocks and Eibach First before moving forward Fox Shocks Provided a Range of Off Set that the TRD Pro Shocks work in and a Max change allowed before it would go out of range of the valving system, Eibach provided the exact amount of change that the Springs both Front and back would provide.

The change is well under the Maximum that the Fox 4Runner TRD Pro Shocks can accept So with that data from both Manufactures when the Springs arrived I measured them and found that they were exactly what Eibach said they would be and that is what Fox Shock stated would be acceptable but would result in a little bit stiffer ride however that has nothing to do with the shocks themselves just the spring rates are stiffer than the Toyota ones.

So I beg to see where the Money is better spent elsewhere than a mere $342 for the springs.

2019-2020 Toyota 4Runner TRD PRO
PRO-LIFT-KIT
Eibach PRO-LIFT-KIT springs are designed to provide a suspension lift on your FOX equipped 4Runner TRD PRO while retaining the factory look and feel. Rigorous development and testing has resulted in a lift spring system which perfectly accommodates the factory FOX shocks in the TRD PRO. By optimizing height and rate within the limit of each shocks’ bypass zone, you retain factory ride characteristics and a lift ready to tackle the toughest terrain.

Each PRO-LIFT-KIT is engineered and manufactured using the same technology found in our championship winning ERO Off-road race springs and carefully tested to provide unparalleled ride quality and off-road capability.

Ride Height:
Front: +1.6" Rear: +1.0"
That is + 1.6 front and + 1.0 over the Current TRD Pro set point and it is Level front to back and Side to Side!

 

Kudos to you for contacting FOX first and confirming the valving structure. I believe you're the first to do that, at least that has vocalized so on the 'net. Did you find out how many "zones" there are in the FOX shocks? Did they tell you at what point you would be diminishing shock performance with a taller spring?

 

First thing is Fox did not confirm the valving structure they only gave me the Range that the shock performs as designed in with the front being 2.85 inches of range over and the back 2.40 inches over So with that TRD already took 1 inch of that range in both front and back so that leaves 1.85 inch in front to work in and 1.40 for the back. The Eibach Springs in the front add 1.60 to make level and 1.0 to the back this Only applies to the 2019 and 2020 and Will not fit vehicles with TSB#0094-20 update that is the front shocks replaced due to cold weather Noise (a popping sound or clunking noise) they install the 2021 version of the Fox Shocks as a fix and you can not lift those this way.

 

To my knowledge, they're not the same as used under a 2WD 4Runner. I want to say 5th gen 4WD rear coils provide about 1.5" under a 2WD 4Runner. I have to assume the front shock assembly provides about the same.

 

Not with these Spring, but the Eibach is all-ready working on new springs for 2021 Pros they have one fitted on 21 and going to production

he is just trying to sell his Suspension sorry man good luck on the sale

 

Ha ha! you can go buy your own not going to get mine! I hit some deep rut trails and it handled them excellent! want my Toyota Fox Shock Trd Pro Spring set? I'll sell em......

 

I don't mean to thread-crap, but this is why I worry. I simply want the info out there for curious minds.

Your math doesn't really make sense. There is just no way that there is 2.85" of bypass zone travel available above the TRD PRO's stock sitting position.

4Runner front shocks have, basically, about 5" of travel. I spoke with FOX and watched a video they produce, and have determined that the TRD FOX shocks have three zones. Without specifics from FOX, the best I can do is assume that the final zones, where bypass is not available, both under compression and extension, are 1" in range/length. Perhaps they are smaller, at 1/2", I really don't know. I doubt they're smaller than 1/2".. do what you want with these estimates. If the final zones are indeed 1" long, that leaves roughly 3" of travel in the bypass zone. TRD designed the shocks along with FOX, so TRD did not "take 1" already"... SO from the factory, the shocks sit somewhere in that bypass zone which is roughly 3" in range. Do they sit in the middle of that zone? I do not know... but I imagine they sit somewhere near the middle. If they are in the middle of a 3" zone, and you raise the truck 1.6", you have now moved the shock's normal sitting position by about .8". If from the factory there was 1.5" of bypass zone above the resting position, you now have .7" above resting position. So you are now, at the very least, closer to the edge of that zone. Do what you want with this info / conjecture.. but IMO you are pushing it with a 1.6" lift. All that said, I think a 1" lift would be just fine. Admittedly, as I visualize compression and rebound, it doesn't seem absolutely terrible to be at the top of the zone in all cases. However, if the truck gets a little "bouncy," or let's say you're bombing a fire road with corrugations, I feel the shock would exhibit odd behavior as it's constantly hitting that harsher zone just above where the truck naturally sits with the lift... while it was designed to be bouncing around in the middle of the bypass zone without hitting the harsher zones coming into play. My two cents... cheers.

https://youtu.be/jK7t6nrjAlU

 

very pretty sales pitch video I watched that before and that is all it is a sales pitch. when asked Fox says "that is a Generalized presentation" Fox did say that they present a Product to a manufacture with available range that they have and can use so it is up to Trd to pick what they add in lift not Fox. All I can say maybe the "Math" does not make perfect sense to a non engineer and Fox will not tell you exactly where the Bypass Zones are However Eibach did say that they did take the Fox TRD Pro 4runner shocks and others apart to study where the bypass zones are and measure just what has and did say that there is for the front 2.85 inches of lift zone available and Trd uses 1 inch of that available zone however you have to realize that it is not a "true" 1 inch change to the shock movement since the mechanical lift is actually a 1/2 inch change at the Shock So with that in mind the Change that Eibach provides to the shocks is in real numbers is only a 0.8 inch change actual movement to the shock so that Plus the Trd number equals - 1.3 inch actual shock movement change Does that Math make more sense? Since Engineering math is something I deal with daily every day (well 5 days a week) for work I tend to generalize in it. and the Back Shocks the same way just different number (math) available for them.

On top of that I have been on some very rough trails and did run it a bit hard to see how everything performed and it was excellent did not even bottom out, did not have any strange movements and still would recommend the Eibach over the "other" solutions because when I contacted the "other guys" they did not have very much information for their products outside of "well it works"

 

What the heck is going on in here. This is a FS thread not suspension forum GLWS

 

Is this still available?

 

What is a "lift zone?"

Honestly I think we are on the same page. I still think that the 1.6" lift is pushing it, but maybe OK. As it's pushing it, adding spacers to go another inch I think would absolutely degrade performance. Good to hear and at least "sort of" determine that a small lift seems OK on the FOX TRD shocks. Still a lot of hearsay and conjecture going on though...

So I guess Eibach says that the bypass zone is 2.85" long, which sounds right to me. So at the ideal center (honestly, I'm not sure if the center is ideal or not.. but I'd imagine that somewhere near center would be ideal) the shock has 1.4" of stroke available both above and below. They say TRD is already lifting from the middle so they've taken ~.5" of that away with their 1" lift. So the shock already sits a little high and there is .9 available above it. If you use the Eibach springs which lift 1.6", you are moving the shock up ~.8" so now, again, you're at the very top of the bypass zone. I am skeptical though, and want to believe that TRD and FOX worked together enough so that the stock TRD Pro setup sits closer to the middle of that bypass zone and is not indeed already "lifted" .5" up from center. If that is the case, you're in a better situation as you have .6" of bypass zone available in droop/extension bypass dampening, as opposed to just .1"

I agree that Westcott Designs leaves a lot to be desired in their marketing. That said, their product is extremely easy to copy and produce, so I kind of get it. They probably also don't want to admit that it's just a bunch of spacers, because I think spacers are starting to get more of a bad rap. Still, I think that changing to their lower perch, or the same offered by Toytec, is the best way to lift the TRD Pro shocks.. and I only say that because the achieved lift is a more modest, and I stand by surely better performing, 1" versus 1.6". Maybe they're both fine.. probably are. Really depends on how hard you go in the end and what you expect, reliability and performance wise.

If anything, we are helping him sell with good new info and lots of free bumps!

 

Yes it is. Feel free to DM me if you would like to start a conversation.

 

Bump. Still for sale? I'm in Longmont and can come get it this weekend.

 

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