1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

2021 Headlight brightness

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by mebigglesworth, Dec 24, 2020.

  1. Dec 24, 2020 at 6:35 PM
    #1
    mebigglesworth

    mebigglesworth [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2020
    Member:
    #17791
    Messages:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Dallas, TX
    Vehicle:
    2021 White 4Runner
    265/70/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3, Bilstein 5100's: 1.75" front, 1" Cornfed spacer rear
    I have a 2021 4Runner and have had so many people flashing their brights at me when passing by. I have been spending some time in some mountain towns lately so there is for sure less cars and general light pollution but wondering if this is happening to other 2021 drivers.

    These headlights are for sure bright and the throw pretty far and wide compared to my previous SUV.

    Might give the dealer a call next week to at least have them look at it...pretty annoying to have people flashing their brights at me when they pass by...nothing I can do people...these are my OEM lights!

    Thanks for any insights or comments from other 2021 owners.
     
    POWERPLANTHOMER likes this.
  2. Dec 24, 2020 at 6:40 PM
    #2
    HondaKen

    HondaKen New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Member:
    #18082
    Messages:
    109
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ken
    WI
    Vehicle:
    2021 blue SR5 Premium
    TRD pro wheels, 12volt solutions remote start, dobinsons fronts
    Kind of funny, because before I got this truck, everyone I saw with these lights coming at me, I thought... you pos...now I have them and they are amazing. I did , however, adjust them down just a tad from stock, and I mean a tad, and now no one flashes me.
     
  3. Dec 24, 2020 at 6:42 PM
    #3
    altitude

    altitude New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2020
    Member:
    #18564
    Messages:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    I’ve got a 2021 4Runner with LEDs and yes they are nice and bright, but mine have a clear cutoff that should prevent glare in oncoming traffic...no issues to date
     
    POWERPLANTHOMER, DrewMan and HondaKen like this.
  4. Dec 24, 2020 at 7:02 PM
    #4
    mebigglesworth

    mebigglesworth [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2020
    Member:
    #17791
    Messages:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Dallas, TX
    Vehicle:
    2021 White 4Runner
    265/70/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3, Bilstein 5100's: 1.75" front, 1" Cornfed spacer rear
    I think that's what I need to do. Its just a phillips head needed to adjust right?

    Also, did you adjust both sides down or just the left for oncoming traffic?
     
  5. Dec 24, 2020 at 7:36 PM
    #5
    HondaKen

    HondaKen New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Member:
    #18082
    Messages:
    109
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ken
    WI
    Vehicle:
    2021 blue SR5 Premium
    TRD pro wheels, 12volt solutions remote start, dobinsons fronts
    yea, just a phillips. I did both, but probably really only need to do drivers side. seriously though, it didn't take much.
     
    JennB likes this.
  6. Dec 24, 2020 at 7:40 PM
    #6
    canadian.bacon

    canadian.bacon H9 halogen is the best led bulb

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Member:
    #15450
    Messages:
    1,013
    Snowland
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Tesla Model Y
    if they are bolt on, this might be my new upgrade :)
     
    Singleminded likes this.
  7. Dec 25, 2020 at 9:15 AM
    #7
    kmeeg

    kmeeg New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Member:
    #5853
    Messages:
    5,206
    Gender:
    Male
    If you haven't lifted your 4runner don't do anything to your headlights. You touch your headlights alignment only when you lift.
    Some people doesn't know how to drive at night. How to drive at night should be included in drivers handbook when getting driver license.
     
  8. Dec 25, 2020 at 2:44 PM
    #8
    Singleminded

    Singleminded New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2020
    Member:
    #15483
    Messages:
    1,723
    Vehicle:
    2020 4Runner Limited
    OEM LED foglights
    Totally! I keep checking the Toyota accessories catalog looking for them! I got the OEM LED fogs that way and am really hoping Toyota will do the same with the headlights soon. The halogens on my 2020 are the only thing that made me say, WTF Toyota, how can you be so cheap?! :mad::laugh:
     
    HondaKen likes this.
  9. Dec 25, 2020 at 2:58 PM
    #9
    Rainier42

    Rainier42 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7764
    Messages:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Johnny
    Bucks County, PA
    Vehicle:
    2020 Silver 4Runner Venture
    Sliding Cargo Tray, 265/70 R17 Falken WildPeak A/T3W tires, Interior Vled bulbs, LED Fog Lamps off of a 2020 TRD Pro w/Yellow Lamin-x film, Pedal Commander, TRD Pro shift handle, Subaru front tweeters.
    2021 parts are now online:
    https://parts.toyota.com/p/Toyota_2...Y---HEADLAMP---RIGHT/97134245/8114035620.html

    Issue is going to be whether 2020 and earlier wiring harnesses work with the 2021 headlight assembly.
     
  10. Dec 25, 2020 at 3:07 PM
    #10
    Singleminded

    Singleminded New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2020
    Member:
    #15483
    Messages:
    1,723
    Vehicle:
    2020 4Runner Limited
    OEM LED foglights
    Right. It's one thing to be able to buy parts to replace stuff that came stock on your 2021 -- quite another to have them offered as a drop in replacement for 2020 or earlier trucks. I read somewhere that a lot of the wiring in general changed for 2020 (maybe because of the new safety features / radar and camera?) so that's had me wondering if the 2021 units might be compatible only with the 2020s and not 2019 or earlier.

    Does anyone remember how long it took for Toyota to make their LED fogs available? As I recall, they were introduced on the TRD Pro in 2019 (or was it 2018?) but I don't know when they became available for owners of other models and years. I just know they were already in the catalog when I bought my Limited in June. I'm asking of course cause if Toyota is likely to wait a year or so then I'll stop checking all the time :rofl:
     
  11. Dec 25, 2020 at 3:13 PM
    #11
    Rainier42

    Rainier42 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7764
    Messages:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Johnny
    Bucks County, PA
    Vehicle:
    2020 Silver 4Runner Venture
    Sliding Cargo Tray, 265/70 R17 Falken WildPeak A/T3W tires, Interior Vled bulbs, LED Fog Lamps off of a 2020 TRD Pro w/Yellow Lamin-x film, Pedal Commander, TRD Pro shift handle, Subaru front tweeters.
    I checked and the 2021 headlight assemblies are available and seem to be reasonably priced through some dealers. We'll have to wait to see if someone purchases assemblies and tries to install. From photos, it looks like the high beam is plug-and-play but the low beam plug looks different on the 2021, although could be the same.
     
    Singleminded[QUOTED] likes this.
  12. Dec 25, 2020 at 6:19 PM
    #12
    4runningMan

    4runningMan New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Member:
    #7255
    Messages:
    2,706
    New Mexico
    They’re not plug and play. Same situation with the Tacoma’s. They will require a conversion harness.
     
  13. Dec 25, 2020 at 8:10 PM
    #13
    DallasTRDPro

    DallasTRDPro New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2020
    Member:
    #13058
    Messages:
    1,069
    Gender:
    Male
    Dallas
    Vehicle:
    2021 Honda CRV...UGH!
    mrmike7189 and Red_5 like this.
  14. Dec 25, 2020 at 10:05 PM
    #14
    canadian.bacon

    canadian.bacon H9 halogen is the best led bulb

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2020
    Member:
    #15450
    Messages:
    1,013
    Snowland
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Tesla Model Y
    For that money, the halogens seem brighter and brighter
    I’ll slap the led fogs and problem solved
     
    POWERPLANTHOMER likes this.
  15. Dec 26, 2020 at 3:24 AM
    #15
    Rainier42

    Rainier42 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7764
    Messages:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Johnny
    Bucks County, PA
    Vehicle:
    2020 Silver 4Runner Venture
    Sliding Cargo Tray, 265/70 R17 Falken WildPeak A/T3W tires, Interior Vled bulbs, LED Fog Lamps off of a 2020 TRD Pro w/Yellow Lamin-x film, Pedal Commander, TRD Pro shift handle, Subaru front tweeters.
    Thought the same thing until I started checking dealerships. Can purchase deeply discounted. Regardless, still need a conversion harness, which is not available at this time.
     
  16. Dec 26, 2020 at 6:17 PM
    #16
    dosomeplowin

    dosomeplowin New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2020
    Member:
    #17754
    Messages:
    186
    Vehicle:
    '24 ORP
    I get flashed (giggity) pretty consistently in our '21 as well. I think it's mostly people that are overly sensitive or in part due to the amount of hills/elevation changes in our area.

    I did an HID conversion in our '16 when we had it and they were awesome. I'm satisfied with the new LED's though.
     
    POWERPLANTHOMER, wfxt and redneckj like this.
  17. Dec 26, 2020 at 6:44 PM
    #17
    4runningMan

    4runningMan New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Member:
    #7255
    Messages:
    2,706
    New Mexico
    I don’t recall ever being annoyed by OEM halogens coming at me on the road.

    But I’m often annoyed by some of the newer OEM led’s coming at me in newer model year vehicles. I think it’s just a thing now.
     
    Red_5 likes this.
  18. Dec 27, 2020 at 5:45 AM
    #18
    Tomiboy

    Tomiboy New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2020
    Member:
    #14628
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tom
    I too have a '21 and have had a driver flash me recently, but I also live in the mountains and your lights ARE going to go in peoples eyes under the right condition
     
    wfxt likes this.
  19. Dec 27, 2020 at 5:43 PM
    #19
    wfxt

    wfxt Still figuring it out

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2020
    Member:
    #17231
    Messages:
    101
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Wayleigh
    New York
    Vehicle:
    2021 MGM 4R TRD Pro
    Same and you and OP. Not always but I’d rather have them as factory set even if some think I’m being a POS. I do feel bad though.
     
  20. Dec 27, 2020 at 5:51 PM
    #20
    ipnpulz

    ipnpulz New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7455
    Messages:
    801
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRDOR premium T4R
    You have LED on low beams only and halogen for high beams right?
     
  21. Dec 27, 2020 at 6:00 PM
    #21
    ipnpulz

    ipnpulz New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7455
    Messages:
    801
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRDOR premium T4R
    These are pics from the 21 4 Runner....

    5DD017EF-5CA8-4FF8-ACFA-B89F27FF44EF.jpg F977EACE-CD81-4D58-84CF-38699A849729.jpg

    Clearly High beam is Halogen....

    Toyota says LED head lights but in fact they're 50/50 LED low beam and High beams Halogen
     
  22. Dec 27, 2020 at 7:17 PM
    #22
    ipnpulz

    ipnpulz New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7455
    Messages:
    801
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRDOR premium T4R
    I had the dealer telling me today that’s a new LED bulb and I called bullshit that’s not a light emitting diode
     
  23. Dec 27, 2020 at 7:34 PM
    #23
    celaw309

    celaw309 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2019
    Member:
    #12328
    Messages:
    203
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    NY
    Vehicle:
    2020 MGM TRD ORP
    From what I understand, the high beams and low beams are incorporated into the same housing/spot. The halogen remains where the high beams were for previous years to run the DRLs.

    EDIT: For the Limited trim and Pro models only, all others have LED lows and halogen highs. Pretty dumb if you ask me...
     
    ipnpulz likes this.
  24. Dec 28, 2020 at 3:06 AM
    #24
    ipnpulz

    ipnpulz New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7455
    Messages:
    801
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRDOR premium T4R
    We looked at Limited and Pro trims and they have the same set up as the TRD Off roads and SR5’s

    I will be going by the dealer today to bag the deal and will get some pics of the Limited and Pro head lights....
     
  25. Dec 28, 2020 at 3:07 AM
    #25
    ipnpulz

    ipnpulz New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7455
    Messages:
    801
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRDOR premium T4R
    Toyota humped the dog on this issue as always....
     
  26. Dec 28, 2020 at 6:20 AM
    #26
    Red_5

    Red_5 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2020
    Member:
    #15378
    Messages:
    386
    I'm surprised more people aren't discussing this. These things are $1,076 per side. Holy crap!

    Looking around, it looks like some dealers are selling them for $750 per side. Still: holy crap! Are people really down with spending $1,500 to upgrade headlights?
     
  27. Dec 28, 2020 at 8:22 AM
    #27
    4runningMan

    4runningMan New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Member:
    #7255
    Messages:
    2,706
    New Mexico
    Must be an example of trying to ramrod a new technology into an old housing design?

    Sure looks to me like rather than designing a new headlight, they simply rammed an led into the old units instead of designing a new housing from the ground up.
     
  28. Dec 28, 2020 at 8:24 AM
    #28
    ipnpulz

    ipnpulz New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7455
    Messages:
    801
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRDOR premium T4R
    Yeah I am wondering WTF is going on since they designed a totally new housing for the Tacoma LED's
     
    4runningMan[QUOTED] likes this.
  29. Dec 28, 2020 at 8:29 AM
    #29
    4runningMan

    4runningMan New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Member:
    #7255
    Messages:
    2,706
    New Mexico
    It’s a weird approach, no doubt. I suppose they just didn’t sink a bunch of R&D and retooling $$ into it if they knew they’re near the end of the model run.
     
  30. Dec 28, 2020 at 8:48 AM
    #30
    ipnpulz

    ipnpulz New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Member:
    #7455
    Messages:
    801
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRDOR premium T4R
    that's kind of what I am thinking they had tons of useable inventory....
     

Products Discussed in

To Top