1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

PSA you need extra tools to change your tire

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by ajonesaz, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. Sep 8, 2020 at 4:38 PM
    #1
    ajonesaz

    ajonesaz [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2020
    Member:
    #15351
    Messages:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    None yet
    I have only had my 4Runner 2 months and on my 3rd off road experience a jagged rock punctured my tire.

    While in the middle of nowhere I discovered you can't assemble the factory jack without a phillips head screw driver (not included). Normally not an issue for me, but someone failed to return my phillips head to my Oh Sh!t bag (I am probably that person). I had to make do with two flat rocks trying to turn the screws.

    You could go out to your car and pre loosen those factory screws now to avoid an issue down the road. Or better yet, get a real jack because the factory jack barely lifts the car up enough.

    Secondly I recommend going out and checking where you lower your spare. It took me forever to figure out where the hole was to lower it down, the manual is useless here too. You have to find the right side of the right tool and line it up just right.

    I feel like they could have made this whole process much easier. A narrow trail on the side of a mountain is not the best place to learn these things.
     
  2. Sep 8, 2020 at 4:45 PM
    #2
    4Runner fun

    4Runner fun Just the beginning...

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2019
    Member:
    #9220
    Messages:
    2,575
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Nebraska
    Vehicle:
    2019 Black T4R TRD Off Road Premium
    Wrangler Duratracs, center console organizer & trav all 1576 dog divider for the rear. Xpel wrap with ceramic coating. 20% tint on front windows. TRD intake. TRD oil cap Plus parts on shelf & a wish list.
    Great post & information.
    Thanks for the heads up!
    I will test & apply fluid film to help keep things moving freely!
    What type of tire were you running?
    Thanks,
    Ryan
     
  3. Sep 8, 2020 at 5:19 PM
    #3
    fajitas21

    fajitas21 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2016
    Member:
    #2395
    Messages:
    1,344
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Lee
    Collierville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2020 ORP
    Custom scratches
    No need for fluid film, just go loosen the screw that holds the jack handles together. It's a set-screw type situation, and it's painted by the factory. You gotta break the paint skin. It will make sense when you see it.
     
  4. Sep 8, 2020 at 6:18 PM
    #4
    Spare Parts

    Spare Parts New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2020
    Member:
    #14274
    Messages:
    2,775
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    22 LR ORP
    Sherpa Crestone. 4X Innovations Sliders
    Thankfully the first time I took off the spare was for a wool wax event, it was a pain in the ass. Even the second time, used the spare for a place holder while rotating the tires.
    It’s also good practice to learn about spare tire shit before hitting the road.
     
    onaquest and Thatbassguy like this.
  5. Sep 8, 2020 at 6:40 PM
    #5
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,635
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    Thanks for sharing!

    It's also a good endorsement for carrying a basic set of tools in the truck.

    I actually think the first time I lowered my spare was when I up-sized tires and replaced the spare (BTW, anybody need an OEM spare?)

    I'm not even sure the factory jack would get the tires off the ground anymore.o_O
     
    caitcards90 likes this.
  6. Sep 8, 2020 at 6:56 PM
    #6
    Kayakeur

    Kayakeur New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2020
    Member:
    #16569
    Messages:
    13
    First Name:
    Budster
    Vehicle:
    4Runner SR5 1999
    I thought it was crazy the factory put the jack under the rear seat. What? Nobody would think to look there. Not in the compartment by the rear hatch.
     
    Thatbassguy likes this.
  7. Sep 8, 2020 at 7:14 PM
    #7
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    13,635
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    In your '99? I can't recall where the jack lived in my '94, but the '03 and the '19 both have a cubby in the back driver's side.
     
    A&P likes this.
  8. Sep 8, 2020 at 8:02 PM
    #8
    Oldtoyotaguy

    Oldtoyotaguy Paid cash for it

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2018
    Member:
    #7224
    Messages:
    1,600
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Toyota 4 Runner Offroad
    Good tip ajonesaz! I’ve owned a few Toyota’s over the years and would never rely on their jacks to lift the vehicle. Also, I carry a 24” breaker bar and socket to get the wheel nuts off. I think you’d need to be superman to undo wheel nuts tightened to 85 ft/lbs with the wrench they provide.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2020
    stalco, mrmike7189 and SlvrSlug like this.
  9. Sep 8, 2020 at 8:12 PM
    #9
    Tama1968

    Tama1968 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2016
    Member:
    #1353
    Messages:
    706
    Gender:
    Male
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    T4R SR5 in Classic Silver
    Thanks for sharing this.
    As the son of an Air Force crew chief, I had it ingrained in me to test everything when I got a new vehicle, down to practicing a tire change in the relative comfort of our driveway. Decreases the the chance of those 'gotcha!" moments when out in the wild. As I've gotten older and lazier I stopped doing that....probably should do this soon just to get familiar with the set up.
     
    Oldtoyotaguy, Starr, A&P and 2 others like this.
  10. Sep 8, 2020 at 9:12 PM
    #10
    Antman

    Antman New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2020
    Member:
    #12698
    Messages:
    695
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Anthony
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2021 4Runner off-road premium, 2022 Tacoma
    2021 4Runner: King Coilovers King rear shocks Camburg UCA’s Spc rear Trail arms Icon 52700 rear springs Icon panhard bar SCS Ray10’s Rci Sliders Rci Full Skids 2022 Tacoma Offroad: King Coilovers King rear shocks Deaver leaf springs Camburg UCA Scs Gen 5 Bamf front hybrid bumper Rci Full Skids Rci Sliders

    I can break them easily lol. However it’s probably due to my size lolll
     
  11. Sep 8, 2020 at 9:49 PM
    #11
    glwood54

    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2019
    Member:
    #10964
    Messages:
    6,604
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gary
    Albuquerque, NM
    Vehicle:
    2019 OR, KDSS, RSG sliders, Eibach shocks, 265/70 Falken Wildpeaks
    Another side benefit of relocating the rear diff breather...removing the spare was a good way to get easier access the rear diff...good practice learning to remove/replace the spare tire in, as stated above, "the relative comfort of my driveway".
     
  12. Sep 9, 2020 at 12:56 AM
    #12
    Taco636

    Taco636 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2020
    Member:
    #15758
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brenden
    Tucson
    Vehicle:
    ‘20 TRDOP MGM
    Good advice to point out. Figured this out when assisting someone on the road with a tire change just the other day. They had their jack and some of the handle pieces but not enough to give the proper reach. I grabbed my handles and noticed they were coated over pretty heavily with paint. At the time, I was glad I had my Leatherman with me and was able to break the screws loose. This was a friendly reminder to put my tool kit back in my vehicle!
     
    A&P and Oldtoyotaguy like this.
  13. Sep 9, 2020 at 7:21 AM
    #13
    Oldtoyotaguy

    Oldtoyotaguy Paid cash for it

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2018
    Member:
    #7224
    Messages:
    1,600
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Toyota 4 Runner Offroad
    Good job, helping others, Taco636. The world needs more kindness and willing hands.
     
    Blue 4ever Runner, Red_5 and MeefZah like this.
  14. Sep 9, 2020 at 7:26 AM
    #14
    Agent_Outside

    Agent_Outside A Guy A Girl and A Trail

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2018
    Member:
    #8098
    Messages:
    2,030
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    Built 2011 T4R Limited
    You guys should be taking your spare down regularly to check the tire pressure....
     
  15. Sep 9, 2020 at 7:38 AM
    #15
    MeefZah

    MeefZah ------------

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Member:
    #1122
    Messages:
    2,804
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    Lexington, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2020 GX4(Runner)60
    Or you could flip it so the valve stem is down, then you can check it without dropping it. Slight chance of ripping the valve stem off if you drag the ass end off road though... never seen it happen though.
     
  16. Sep 9, 2020 at 7:46 AM
    #16
    Oldtoyotaguy

    Oldtoyotaguy Paid cash for it

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2018
    Member:
    #7224
    Messages:
    1,600
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Toyota 4 Runner Offroad
    For sure, Agent_Outside and to grease the screw mechanism. Maybe not a problem in the south, but up north where I live, it will rust rust solid in two seasons if you don’t move it and grease it.
     
    Blue 4ever Runner likes this.
  17. Sep 9, 2020 at 7:55 AM
    #17
    Johnrg

    Johnrg New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2020
    Member:
    #13280
    Messages:
    55
    First Name:
    John
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD Off Road
    Went through the same here, checking what was needed and finding how far in the jack handle goes to lower the tire. Going to add a phillips head screwdriver to the jack pouch. Normally have a toolbox for my bikes in any case but jack tools should have had a screwdriver for those screws. I carry an old messenger bag with a couple of 1x4 scraps to use under the jack in unstable soil, a breaker bar, tire plugs, scraps of mesh matting in case I need to lay in the dirt... As well, carrying a compressor and small recovery kit (tow strap, shackle, tree saver to use as a bridle and 2 soft shackles). While deciding on sockets for the lug nuts found a spark plug socket fit the lugs best though too snug on the lug/lock adapter, so carry both sockets w/breaker. Stock tool should have a simple extension.
     
    Starr and Spare Parts like this.
  18. Sep 9, 2020 at 8:07 AM
    #18
    Spare Parts

    Spare Parts New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2020
    Member:
    #14274
    Messages:
    2,775
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    22 LR ORP
    Sherpa Crestone. 4X Innovations Sliders
    Where do you store all this stuff? I’m very surprised at the lack of storage areas in the runner. In my Taco, I have a storage tub/tote, not sure the wife will be happy I start loading the back Of the runner with totes of gear.
     
    Huzer21 likes this.
  19. Sep 9, 2020 at 8:12 AM
    #19
    Johnrg

    Johnrg New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2020
    Member:
    #13280
    Messages:
    55
    First Name:
    John
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD Off Road
    Luckily I'm single. Compressor and recovery kit go in the passenger seat footwell. Messenger bag with the rest in the back. My pack with laptop, GPS, Inreach, etc... sit also in the footwell and my camera gear on the passenger seat for fast access.

    This is my travel setup.

    IMG_20200722_123809.jpg
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2020
  20. Sep 9, 2020 at 8:25 AM
    #20
    Spare Parts

    Spare Parts New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2020
    Member:
    #14274
    Messages:
    2,775
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    22 LR ORP
    Sherpa Crestone. 4X Innovations Sliders
    Yep, single versus wife and 2 teenagers
     
  21. Sep 9, 2020 at 8:53 AM
    #21
    ThePnsh3r

    ThePnsh3r New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2020
    Member:
    #15397
    Messages:
    427
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRDOP
    Dude... hate to break up the party but - no additional tool is needed lol you can use the slot on the jack handle to loosen up those screws. It fits perfect and it is designed to do so. No need to use a Phillips.

    Edit: straight from the owners manual if you didn’t catch it during the actual operation.

    AEBBD550-4F7D-429A-9971-152A1FD3444C.jpg
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2020
  22. Sep 9, 2020 at 9:07 AM
    #22
    ThePnsh3r

    ThePnsh3r New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2020
    Member:
    #15397
    Messages:
    427
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRDOP
    not to laugh... but, Man! The struggle was real - I can just imagine how this all went down
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2020
    mrmike7189, A&P and MeefZah like this.
  23. Sep 9, 2020 at 9:13 AM
    #23
    Blue 4ever Runner

    Blue 4ever Runner New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2019
    Member:
    #10935
    Messages:
    666
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    Vehicle:
    2019 Blue 4Runner
    Blacked out badges, window deflectors, smoked 3rd brake light. I have a Borla muffler on order as well as some color matched engine cover stickers. I'll be painting the stock wheels soon as well. Falken tires in the fall as well.
    Yeah, this. I took mine down when I did the Borla muffler to make room to work. It is a little tricky to do, so doing it in the driveway is a good idea as well as mounting it so the valve is available.
     
    A&P likes this.
  24. Sep 9, 2020 at 9:48 AM
    #24
    Oldtoyotaguy

    Oldtoyotaguy Paid cash for it

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2018
    Member:
    #7224
    Messages:
    1,600
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Toyota 4 Runner Offroad
    I put the breaker bar and socket, a hydraulic jack, a small tool roll and some recovery gear in medium sized nylon tool bag that I carry in the cargo area. Nothing too extreme, and if I need to carry something big, I just remove the bag temporarily to make room. I try and stay away from carrying too much, mainly for the weight, and mostly I don’t like totes. There’s a lot of room in a 4 Runner.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2020
    Toy4X4, mrmike7189 and Starr like this.
  25. Sep 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM
    #25
    DreamsComeTrue

    DreamsComeTrue New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2020
    Member:
    #16308
    Messages:
    117
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2020 Venture
    Thank you for sharing! I’ve been off-roading and haven’t even checked yet how to change a tire :)
     
    Oldtoyotaguy likes this.
  26. Sep 9, 2020 at 10:56 AM
    #26
    MeefZah

    MeefZah ------------

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Member:
    #1122
    Messages:
    2,804
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    Lexington, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2020 GX4(Runner)60
    Yep, fits same either way.
     
    A&P[QUOTED] likes this.
  27. Sep 9, 2020 at 11:09 AM
    #27
    trlhiker

    trlhiker Lazy Bum

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2019
    Member:
    #11913
    Messages:
    2,330
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    1992 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4
    The jack in 2nd Gens are stored in the R/H rear cubby hole. The handle and extension to lower the spare is under the rear seat. I keep a socket, extension, and breaker bar in my spare tire kit.
     
    Thatbassguy[QUOTED] likes this.
  28. Sep 9, 2020 at 11:22 AM
    #28
    Johnrg

    Johnrg New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2020
    Member:
    #13280
    Messages:
    55
    First Name:
    John
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD Off Road
    Lol... Am usually pretty observant. Thanks for that.
     
    java, Toy4X4, Oldtoyotaguy and 3 others like this.
  29. Sep 9, 2020 at 2:03 PM
    #29
    Starr

    Starr Life Off the Road, off the Grid

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2020
    Member:
    #13542
    Messages:
    253
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jonathan
    SouthEast Maui
    Vehicle:
    Tacoma 3rd Gen 2017 quicksand TRD OR, T4R 5th Gen TRD ORP silver , Tundra 2000 TRD OR silver, Deere 5300 4wd, Wrangler 1994 ARB air lockers, 1998 BMW R100RTL.
    KDSS, Baja Sport amber fogs, PRO Black wheels, BFG KO2's
    Learned early to always check over a new vehicle and experiment with basic functions like changing a tire with provided equipment. And for carrying a set of basic + tools, tape, baling wire, pressure gauge and valve tool, rope, tow strap, jumpers etc.
    Better to be ready than to blame the vehicle.
     
    mrmike7189 likes this.
  30. Sep 11, 2020 at 5:07 AM
    #30
    DRobs

    DRobs New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2019
    Member:
    #8335
    Messages:
    1,295
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dan
    Missouri Ozarks
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD OR - MGM
    Pinstripes, lots of em. Plus a couple dents.
    If you have Wheel Locks - make sure you keep an eye on that key. I check to make sure mine has been returned to the tool roll after every service / tire rotation.

    In regards to the factory jack. If you have a lift / bigger tires and don't want to carry a Hijack Lift with you everywhere. Might want to invest in bottle jack extensions or bring some wood blocks with you.

    https://safejacks.com/products/extensions-for-bottle-jacks
     
    JET4, Toy4X4 and Starr like this.

Products Discussed in

To Top