Safe Key Fob Storage for Push-Start

If you’ve got a 5th Gen with push-start, you’ve probably heard about how easy it can be for experienced car-thieves to steal keyless vehicles. Apparently, 4Runners sit high on the list of desired vehicles overseas, with Tacomas, Tundras, and Sequoias not far behind.

When I had my Tacoma, and now with my 4Runner, I was/am able to keep my key-fob near the front of my house without fear of having the signal stolen, by keeping it in a cheap, little Faraday Box - a perfect-fit tea container that my wife had hanging around.

I can walk right up to my vehicle, and even rattle the tin, and no signal will escape to allow me to unlock my doors with a grab of the handle.

Every other container I’ve tried hasn’t worked, and every Faraday box I’ve found online look terrible.

Do any of you do the same? What do you use?

 

I will park it in the garage...

 

If I had that option, I’d do the same.

Honestly considering building one, but I don’t think I could get it permitted for the side of my house.

 

I keep my key under my tinfoil hat.

Just kidding. You make a good point. Would be handy if there was some kind of pocketable pouch that blocks the signal, so you'd have convenient protection when traveling too.

 

My pocket?

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the whole point of this thread just went over your head.

I rock my undies at home so no pockets here.

 

Privacy pouch

https://www.infowarsstore.com/infowars-privacy-pouch

 

I can't believe I'm about to click a link to infowars...

 

its insured. let em have it...

 

Don't do it.

 

joking aside, lately we had a lot of incidents like this; 30 seconds or less and the nice vehicle is gone. I actually keep my keys on the other side of the house and not by the front door and in an aluminum mini bucket from the dollarstore.
https://www.680news.com/video/2020/07/14/thieves-use-electronic-method-to-steal-cars/
Also considering installing a hidden kill switch.

 

I put mine in natures pocket.

 

One of my friend's had a Honda Pilot stolen when it was parked a block from home. Apparently they're easy to steal too. I'd like to say I'll take precautions to lower the chance mine will get stolen.. but I won't.

 

Your anu... nevermind

 

Or you could just turn off the radio (deactivate keyless entry) in your fob, but not having a keyless entry Toyota, I can't verify this.
https://www.chrforums.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2951

 

Without the key Fob , wouldn't the 4runner stop after a certain distance of being driven ?

 

I've always wondered that as well.

Cheers,

Sean

 

I've thought about testing this. Leave my key at home and see how far I get. I think, in this scenario, the thieves would steal your fobs code and duplicate a key. I could be wrong though, I don't have experience in stealing cars

 

Good description of how these thefts work, and countermeasures here:

https://www.driverknowledgetests.com/resources/what-is-relay-car-theft-and-how-can-you-stop-it/

And a link to faraday sleeves here:

https://www.amazon.com/faraday-sleeve/s?k=faraday+sleeve

 

Not sure about the 4R in particular, but I remember reading a story about some auto journalists at a LeMons race. Broke some stuff, drove the rental car 2 hrs to the closest shop with the parts. Guy walks back out to rental car (now shut off) and realizes he doesn't have the key. So it started with the key in someone else's pocket, or someone else started it, then guy without key drives for 2 hrs without key before shutting off. Not sure if this issue has been fixed yet, this story was a couple years ago.

 

Get The Club 3000. Chances are they aren't coming with fancy high tech digital hacking gadgets and an analog hacksaw.

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That would never, ever happen.

No car company would stupid enough to make their vehicle intentionally stall out while driving. They would get sued out of existence if they programmed the vehicle to shut off in the middle of highway when the key battery got to low and it can’t recognize it was present. That would be nearing a criminal level of negligence.

If its running and the key is removed from the vehicle, it will stay running indefinitely while giving you warning lights and beeping at you that the key is missing. Once YOU turn it off then it will not allow a restart.

 

I guess I did not think that question through all the way but you got a good point .

 

What's wrong with it?

 

With Infowars? Everything

 

Oh I see, you might be democrats.. but let's not get into politics

 

Oh, I see.....you think Sandy Hook was a hoax.

 

True - but you never know. Met a guy last week who just had his Tacoma stolen - with a Club on it. To be fair, he thinks he knows who stole it: there was a car parked every few days on his street, but he never thought much of it, and then after his truck disappeared, the car never showed again...

Anyways - there’s this:

https://youtu.be/lU82KlRxS2w

 

Some y’all act like you don’t have full coverage insurance