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Convince me I need a 5th gen 4Runner

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by will van, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. Jul 28, 2020 at 9:39 AM
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    Headlights are a good point to waiting, but it all depends on the deal you're being offered now.
    If the deal is good, don't be afraid to pull the trigger and add some aftermarket plug and play LEDs into it.
    Folks over at Headlight Revolution have been fantastic to work with and I've loved my Supernovas (SV3s & SV4s).
     
  2. Jul 28, 2020 at 10:29 AM
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    I've read mixed messages on this. Some people say it's easy to find the tray. Some say it's a PITA.

    I know I can install it if I have the parts.

    I know I would use the sliding tray. I think I would prefer it because it levels the floor when the seats are down. That alone is enough for me to want to get it. But I also think I would use it for loading and unloading. And for adding a removable fridge/freezer for road trips.

    I hear you about items falling down off the back of the slide. They make a barrier for the back of the slide, but I think it would defeat the "level" feature. But the bottom line sounds like the rear cargo slide is an uncommon option. Perhaps special order for an Off Road or Premium. And would require some significant legwork to retrofit one after-the-fact (just to locate the slide itself).



    But I suppose I need to back up on whether I'm getting a "good deal".

    Huntsville Toyota offered $29k on my Tacoma trade-in. I currently have 1.9% APR on the Tacoma. Huntsville wants to sell the Nautical Blue Off Road (no Premium) for $39k.

    My local dealer is offering an Off Road Premium in Barcelona Red $45k. No commitment yet from local dealer on Tacoma trade-in value.

    Neither have the rear cargo slide.

    I'm thinking maybe I should wait until 2021. Pay off the Tacoma and have more negotiating leverage for the 2021 models with LED headlights.
     
  3. Jul 28, 2020 at 10:45 AM
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    I think you'll be fine with ORP wheels, but I had rubbing when I put on a set of stock size 265 General Grabber ATXs. Had to push the liner forward and trim a bit to fix it, which was disappointing, but not a huge issue. Everything I'd read everywhere said that there are no rubbing issues with the stock size, and that obviously turned out to be false. I have a completely stock suspension with the stock TRD wheels, and apparently it's the offset of the wheels that's the problem. ORP wheels are a different, but be prepared to do some trimming if not.
     
  4. Jul 28, 2020 at 11:26 AM
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    I thought the Off Road and Off Road Premium both used the same style wheels. These are the wheels I plan on running with 275/70/17 BFGs.
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    What wheels were you using that rubbed on 265s?

    I used to have a 1993 FZJ80 3x locked Land Cruiser. I installed a set of ARB drawers and an ARB Elements fridge in the back. I used a set of cargo anchor points to secure the fridge. I was planning on doing something similar with the 4Runner and rear cargo slide. My only complaint on the Land Cruiser setup was the fridge was really tall after the 3" OME lift, 315 tires, and ARB drawers. It was hard to get into the fridge because it was so tall.

    I think the rear cargo slide in the 4Runner would be a better height because no extra height added by the drawers and huge lift/tires.
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  5. Jul 28, 2020 at 12:09 PM
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    Is there a difference between the TRD OR and TRD OR Premium wheels?
     
  6. Jul 28, 2020 at 12:30 PM
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    As an option, there is an ARB fridge slide that works with the Element fridge. It's pretty sturdy, low profile, and should allow space to install a set of drawers next to it.

    As far as trading the tacoma for a 4runner, I'd go for a tundra and a UTV. When the UTV breaks, get it fixed under warranty.
     
  7. Jul 28, 2020 at 12:56 PM
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    Yeah, the Off-Road and Off-Road Premium both have the same wheels. The stock wheels on mine are the gunmetal TRD wheels. Basically the same exact wheel as the Pro, just different color(same dimensions, offset).

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  8. Jul 28, 2020 at 1:45 PM
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    Nope. Same wheels.
     
  9. Jul 28, 2020 at 3:05 PM
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    Gotcha. So the rubbing issue is for the TRD wheels? And I should be fine to up-size to 275/70/17 on the stock Off Road wheels?
     
  10. Jul 28, 2020 at 3:17 PM
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    Many are fine, stock with 275s. Long thread on another runner forum with many pictures.
    Be forewarned that it can be addicting. I was all worried about going with 285s and now on I wished I went 295:spending:
     
  11. Jul 28, 2020 at 3:33 PM
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    I know about the addiction. But my regret about my current Tacoma is that I did too much to the truck right after I bought it. I didn’t even give myself a chance to drive it before I started modifying it.
     
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  12. Jul 28, 2020 at 4:46 PM
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    It’s ok. Other members answered above. There is no difference.
     
  13. Jul 29, 2020 at 7:31 AM
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    As far as I know, yes. I know some tire brands have slightly larger or smaller "275s" than others, so that's another thing to take into account. Mine came with the stock 265 Bridgestone Duelers, and the 265 Grabber ATXs look like 275s compared to those. Granted, it's an All-terrain vs highway tire, but I know even all-terrains vary slightly in size among different brands.

    You're definitely not the only one to do that. :laugh:
     
  14. Jul 29, 2020 at 7:53 AM
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    The cargo slide can be added easily.

    As far as how picky you should be...

    I carry 65qt cooler and the only thing I use my sliding tray for is to drain the cooler. It’s a cool feature but I wouldn’t cry if I didn’t have it.
     
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  15. Jul 29, 2020 at 8:47 AM
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    @will van, have you looked into the possibility of ordering the exact 4R you want? I don't know how much of a hurry you're in, but if you considered waiting for a 2021, maybe ordering one equipped exactly like you want, color, model, sliding rear tray, etc. is an option.
     
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  16. Jul 29, 2020 at 10:16 AM
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    The 4Runner is actually my wife's, it actually handles decent for what it is, my wife came from driving a STi for the past 5 years and she actually doesn't mind it, the size has actually being really useful right now, its lot shorter than my Ram so parking has been pretty good when doing groceries.

    The biggest difference for me compare to a Taco is the interior, I personally prefer 4Runner on driving position, and the rear seats are actually usable, 4 adults will seat comfortably on long drive.

    For off road, I like it, the roads we drive on are often narrow, rocky, muddy, so it fits rather well on the terrain, she may need LT tires to deal with the rocks but we'll see how long these Nitto lasts.

    Overall this is her favorite vehicle so far.
     
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  17. Aug 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM
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    Thanks to everyone for all of the feedback. It's basically decision time: There is a 2020 ORP in Nautical Blue that should be arriving at my local dealer early next week. It has my name on it and I have 24 hours to decide if I want it (the dealer told me these trucks are in high demand, and I believe him). It has a moonroof but no rear cargo slide.

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    At this point I am debating whether to wait and order a 2021 with the cargo slide, or go ahead and pull the trigger on the 2020. The cargo slide option is $350, whereas sourcing one new from parts is about $1,500. Plus, if I get a 2021 I could finish paying off my Tacoma before I buy the 4Runner.



    I'm also vacillating on the color. I really like the Nautical Blue.
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    But I'm wondering if Magnetic Gray would be a better choice? I'm just afraid it's too many neutral tones - gray, silver, black, etc.
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    What do you guys think? Should I go for it and forget about the cargo slide? Any disadvantage to waiting for 2021 trucks?
     
  18. Aug 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM
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    Get what you really want. I don’t think the cargo tray is a deciding factor, but if you’re buying new, buy exactly what you want.
    The 2021 will be the exact same. New colors maybe.
     
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    What if I don’t know what I really want? :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  20. Aug 14, 2020 at 3:02 PM
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    flip a coin. Both great colors if that’s what you’re dwelling on.

    I saw voodoo blue and had to have it no matter what.
     
  21. Aug 14, 2020 at 4:27 PM
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    Agreed. VooDoo Blue is badass. Probably my favorite color.

    Either way, thanks for the feedback. I’ll probably make the call when I see the truck in person.
     
  22. Aug 14, 2020 at 4:37 PM
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    True, but the supply is low. Under normal circumstances they would probably offer a decent discount to get them moving. But not during these crazy times.
     
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    I have both a 4R Pro and Taco Pro, I favor my 4R much more. I feel like it’s made much better in quality versus Tacoma.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback!
     
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  25. Aug 16, 2020 at 5:43 PM
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    I second Silver and get a nice aluminum trailer for those times you just need to haul something.Screenshot 2020-08-13 at 11.25.17 AM.jpg
     
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    Careful of the aluminum trailer in a snow belt, had an Alumna awhile back figured it would never rust. where road salt/chemical hit it, the thing turned black and started eating it away by the next spring.
     
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    I’m in Texas. We’re good on snow.
     
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    get the white one, that's the fastest color;
    your should make your own decisions while spending your hard earned cash like you did with the taco :)
    and the cargo tray is hardly a decision factor when buying this kind of a vehicle...
    you should also date a brunette
     
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    Pinstripes, lots of em. Plus a couple dents.
    My dealer had a Nautical Blue ORP in the showroom marked down when I bought my Magnetic Gray OR. I wanted Gray, I didn't want blue.

    YMMV
     
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