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2020 trd off road suspension

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by trdpro530, Jun 15, 2020.

  1. Jun 15, 2020 at 9:44 AM
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    I am going to buy the 5100 shock set. I was trying to figure out if the ome 883 would be good for the front? I want to have something more stuff up front so the truck doesn’t dive down as much under breaking.
    Or would the stock springs work just as good with the 5100s ?
    I am going for a leveled look I don’t want anything crazy I am running the stock trd pro rims and nitto tires.
     
  2. Jun 15, 2020 at 11:22 AM
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    Personally if you're just going for leveled do 5100 adjustable up front with a 1.75 setting, leave coils OEM and rear setup alone.

    I'd avoid the 2.1" setting on the Bilsteins as you'll likely not enjoy the stiffer ride.

    If you are talking lifting, that's a completely different topic, and I'd recommend the 5100's w/ 883's (lowest setting) with likely a 1" rear coil spring upgrade.

    In either case, rear lifted or rear stock, you can run the 5100's back there no problem.
     
  3. Jun 15, 2020 at 11:30 AM
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    I am just trying to get the best set up out of it. I don’t want to lift the rear I want to run the stock nittos that come on the trd pros because my 4 runner came with them. So if I get the 5100 and run the 883 in the front at the lowest setting will that make it level?
     
  4. Jun 15, 2020 at 11:40 AM
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    You will search endlessly for the answers to these questions. I've done 20+ lifts at this point for myself and others on mostly Toyotas, but some Jeeps too. The best way to explain this is, coil springs have a +/- variance they are built to, their spec. That spec is length and spring rate. If you have an OEM front, or a bumper, or a winch and a bumper, they will all produce different amount so of lift on the same coils, because their weights are different.

    For the most part, you'll likely come close, but the only way to get it just like you want is with a truly adjustable shock to dial in preload. The Bilsteins give you some C-Clip shoulders and should work fine with the OEM, but you might have to try a few settings and live with the fact it might be close, but not perfect.

    In the end, that doesn't matter too much, however, cause once you put weight in the truck, the back will squat, and your front will look like it's too high. The trick is to know what you plan to do to remain level. Towing? Factor tongue weight of trailer and how much squat that causes. No load in rear but want offroad bumper and winch? That will affect the front.

    I say do Bilstein 5100 in front w/ OEM coil because my guess is that the 883 might not have much weight on it, if you don't have a winch and bumper, and likely will give between 1.75" to 2.25" inches of lift. Maybe less, doubtful more.

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    Another way to combat this and it's not expensive.

    Do the 883 + 5100 in front, do the 5100 w/ stock coils in rear (You likely want to match the Bilsteins for body roll control front and back), but then add some firestone airbags to the rear coils. They are usually less than $100 and give you the option to run 5 PSI with no load, and up to 30 PSI with a load to ensure you don't have a bro lean.
     
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    The shop that I am looking at getting it done at says get the fox 2.0 set up. And call it a day?
     
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    The fox suspension can have a adjustable collar suspension. It's going to cost a pretty penny but you'll be able to dial it in and the shocks are progressive, so you'll like the ride. It's not cheap, but you'll be happy likely with it.
     
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    If you're going to spring (pun) for the 2.0's, might as well go for the 2.5's.

    See how this adds up quickly?

    I think you should use your OEM coil on the Bilsteins like fajitas suggested and call it a day.
     
  8. Jun 15, 2020 at 7:04 PM
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    So might be stupid but what’s the difference between the 2.0 and 2.5 fox shocks
     
  9. Jun 15, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    It's the diameter of the shock body. A 2.0 is a 2.0" diameter body vs 2.5" body. Large body = greater fluid capacity = greater resistance to fade and better surface area for cooling.

    Honestly if you're not offroading or just doing light trails and not trying to Raptor Style baja the 2.0 is fine.

    The reason we recommend the Bilsteins and the OEM springs are that they aren't too expensive, gets you a taste, and lets you find out what you want. Most people want to just go big and be done, but what if you go big and it sucks?

    Going measured might cost a few extra bucks, but you'll be able to recoupe some of that by selling the used gear. I ran 5100's for 4 years on my 4Runner...and now that I have a different 4Runner and I've decided to go bigger, I was able to spend the $2000 - $2500 with confidence knowing that I've experienced friends with at least 10 types of suspensions ranging from Kings on resis to spacers with OEM.

    Regarding my question a few posts ago, all offroading it's the same offroading, and if you don't know what you want and buy a setup not suited for what you eventually enjoy you'll end up wanting to do it again. The only difference in this case is that you'll be $2500 into the wrong decision vs $800.

    EDIT* And your question wasn't stupid, you're trying to learn.
     
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    I had a 2019 trd pro it was hit and totaled. So I got a trd off road this time. I liked the ride on the trd pro. Just trying to get something of that performance.
     
  11. Jun 15, 2020 at 8:57 PM
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    Oh, well that helps. I feel in your case going back to Fox will do the job I'd imagine nicely.
     

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