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More Horsepower Needed

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by AmazingDipCompany, Dec 17, 2019.

  1. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:11 PM
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  2. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:29 PM
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    Only at higher RPM...no MPG change I can tell, still sucking up the oil reserves. It is awesome when you lay on the pedal though. It's a heavy vehicle with a small engine
     
  3. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:34 PM
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    That works great for throttle response with stock engine. Doesn't increase hp/tq or acceleration.
    You would still need a supercharger and custom tuning to get any sizable gain in wheel horsepower! All other mods are supporting mods or mods made it increase efficiency (even if it is minimal) it all adds up.
     
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  4. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:45 PM
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    This is why I need an SUV with power. I want both power and cargo size to move that cheese dip around. Oh, and I love to offroad!

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  5. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:59 PM
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    I agree, the truck has descent HP but just lacks in the lower gears. I'm not sure much will help that in an everyday scenario.
     
  6. Dec 24, 2019 at 12:02 AM
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    I agree. Off to bed. 2:30 here. More tomorrow.
    Goodnight
     
  8. Dec 24, 2019 at 4:43 AM
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    Not wanting to spend a million dollars on FI, I went this route and it has made a noticeable difference for me. This truck weighs in the neighborhood of 5900 lbs with all the crap I've added, so it needed some juice. I do not have documented dyno numbers and I do run premium fuel, so take this for what it's worth. My Butt dyno says hell ya!! I like it so * F!! * everyone else.
    I did the URD Y pipe $585: https://www.urdusa.com/urd-off-road-y-pipe-for-2010-2020-4runner-v6/
    This Muffler $120: https://www.magnaflow.com/products/...eroffset-straight-through-performance-muffler
    I also had 2.5" pipe from the Y pipe back installed at the same time the Y and muffler were installed. Labor was $400 for the whole exhaust install. YMMV.

    I also did the TRD intake (w OEM paper filter) which has I believe an official hate club, but I like it, so I say again, * F!! * everyone else.

    {A gentleman on the other forum @Saker figured out you can order these parts separately and save a few bucks, here is the list he populated from a few years ago:

    You can purchase the following for about $235 shipped....
    from Camelback Toyota Parts - Genuine OEM Parts - Free Shipping

    (TRD Air Filter Lid Replacement w/clips) TRD INTK FLTE LIDR PTR03-35090-AA $80.93
    (TRD Lower Air Box Replacement w/clips) TRD INTK LWDAIRBXREP PTR03-35090-AF $63.35
    (TRD Replacement Intake Flow Accelerator for CAI) TRD INTK FLW ACC PTR03-35090-AC $6.88
    (TRD Replacement Intake Air Tube for CAI) TRD INK AIR TUBE RPL PTR03-89100-AA $29.69
    (TRD REPLACEMENT coupler & clamp hardware kit for CAI) TRD INTK HRDWRE REP PTR03-89100-AB $35.42
    (TRD, Air Flow Monitor, Cold Air Int) TRD GAGE INT TUN PTR03-34071 $19.50

    It will not come with an oiled TRD Air Filter. Your stock air filter fits without issue. (Personally, I preferred not to run an oiled filter. YMMV)
    It will not come with 15" of wire loom....cheap at auto parts store!
    It will not come with 20" of 5/32 or 1/8" vacuum hose, also cheap at auto parts store!
    It will not come with zip ties...IIRC, also cheap at auto parts store!
    As described in this thread, a little O2 safe Silicone, and a small plug to seal a hole on the side of the air box and to seal a hole next to a mounting grommet on bottom of air box.
    Silicone spray to facilitate inserting the tube into the couplers and you have just saved yourself $150.00}

    I also added a Sprint Booster, which gave me the throttle response I was looking for.

    So for less than $2000 bucks, it was worth it to me to gain some much needed kick in the ass for this behemoth. Annndddd of course there will be people jumping in here and tell me I wasted my money. I do have a couple of long distance trips from Fla to AZ, one before and one after the performance mods. IMHO? Big Difference! This Florida truck did not like to climb, when I drove out to AZ in 16'. It labored up steep grades at 60-65 mph, dropping into 3rd and jacking the RPMs up over 3500-4000. Now on my trip out here in the last three days, I could drop into 4th and it would lock right in at 3000 RPMs, and hold it's speed at 70 mph. Remember this thing weighs around 6k lbs, so to me these mods have helped tremendously. I will say it's pretty sad we have to go to these lengths to garner some extra HP, but I will take the reliability with the T4R all day long. Truck ran flawlessly all three days in good weather and bad. Good Luck and remember to always raise your pinky when dipping. It's just good T4R etiquette.
    P.S. Welcome!!
     
  9. Dec 24, 2019 at 10:53 AM
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  10. Dec 24, 2019 at 10:55 AM
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    Did you look at the Suburban or Tahoe?
     
  11. Dec 24, 2019 at 11:43 AM
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    Read the whole post. He said he loves to off-road.

    The Suburbans and Tahoes are nice, but wouldn't fit down the trails I run. Hell, I rub branches in the 4runner!
     
  12. Dec 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM
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  13. Dec 24, 2019 at 12:25 PM
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    Dont buy that garbage, total RIP off. Get a supercharger or you are wasting money on the other crap
     
  14. Dec 24, 2019 at 12:38 PM
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    Yes, love wasting my money, that's why I drive a giant brick.
     
  15. Dec 25, 2019 at 12:41 AM
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    I did read the whole post. The OP also sounds like he has some excess income. A suburban will take care of and kill it on the 98% of the time he spends doing everyday personal and business stuff and then turn around and tow an off-road dedicated rig for trail days with ease for the other 2%.
     
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  16. Dec 25, 2019 at 4:07 AM
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    Aha.. Maybe I need to read the post better:rolleyes:

    In that case, I'd get a Sequoia for work, and use the 4runner for play!:D
     
  17. Dec 25, 2019 at 7:45 AM
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    Quicker acceleration is faster off the line so basically its faster

    But it does increase it

    I need to disagree. and have to ask all that say its perceived, or I can press the pedal harder. Have you ever had one on your runner? I went with the booster and it's faster off the line and the 1st time you drive it. You'll wonder why you waited and won't believe the response it has. Bigger tires, SB or CO takes the sluggish feeling and leaves it behind. To me it was one of the best buys for my runner
     
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    Holy hell... Are we REALLY going to have this discussion AGAIN?

    Making it accelerate SOONER does not make it accelerate FASTER.

    I wasn't bashing the product. I even recommended it!

    Obviously, it's a good product. Everyone who buys one is happy with it. NO-ONE is denying that.

    So, if I can admit that it is a good product, can you admit that it DOES NOT make the truck faster?

    Remember, SOONER is not FASTER. QUICKER is also not FASTER.

    You can't make a vehicle faster without reducing weight, regearing, adding power, etc. The PC and SB don't do any of these things.
     
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    Have you tried it? I used to plot merging into traffic and hope I didn't get smashed. Now I press the pedal and it gets me in traffic..... Quicker:)
     
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    https://www.gtechpro.com/

    Why doesn't someone (who has these mods) get one of these & actually find out! You can turn off all the devices & run a 0-60 MPH. Then turn them back on & run the same 0-60 MPH run & see the difference.
    This is as scientific as I can think to make it.
    No superchargers allowed! We know you get major gains.
    They just mount to the windshield & use a 12v plug. They can be used in any vehicle.
     
  21. Dec 25, 2019 at 2:09 PM
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    lol, it cost more than SB or PC. personally I don't need to prove to myself what I know by running one. I've read the reviews, Ive read the manufactures statement saying zero HP gain. Don't take my word for it, go to the other runner forum and read what everyone else says
     
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    From all of the reviews I've read, the improvement in response from the Pedal Commander and Sprint Booster is well worth the money.

    In many cases, people's biggest issue with the acceleration is the delayed response, and the fact that you really need to mash the pedal if you want the truck to move. For these people, the improved response is enough to make them happy.
     
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    I just would like to see scientific evidence rather than hearsay or personal experience.
    This device can be used by many people's vehicles to find what works best for them.
    This can work on motorcycles etc.
     
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    I would definitely like to see some real test results for exhaust and intake modifications. The manufacturers always make claims that they never back up.

    Everyone knows what the other devices do.
     
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    I did GM (1996-2014)...about 50-75K miles and I had issues. I went foreign with Lexus and they last 130K+ with no issues. No excess income yet, that's why MPG are important. It's a V6 that gets under 16MPG street w/ air and cat back exhaust. I can only imagine what a trailer added will do to that MPG.

    Who wants to give the gas companies more money unless you invest? Exxon is cheap right now and oil prices are going higher again.
     
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    The problems comes when you need high RPMs to get the sound you desire. Once you add performance parts you treat it like a BAJA
    It's coming in the mail...from PC
     
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    No Sh*t...I install this stuff myself and so far it's disappointing when you don't see great gains. However, you increase the power where you might need it but don't expect it. I'm headed to Bridgeport OHV Offroad Park and I know my truck will preform well. I'm sure Toyota has done a lot of research on their 4.0L engine
     
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    From Performance Chip Now,

    https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai...ahUKEwj0gsiz7M3mAhUPH80KHcwKD7MQpysIcw&adurl=

    Their response to my question if this works on a 2019 T4R TRD:

    Yes, this will work with all 4Runner year / models. The Performance chip is a tuned resistor setup to interact with your specific vehicles IAT Sensor. It connects to the Intake Air Temperature Sensor (or the ECT in older vehicles), we adjust the sensor input to change the value of the signal going to the ECU to make the sensor believe that the incoming air is colder than it actually is. This causes the intake to take in more air which acts like a mini supercharger and the increased air flow allows for more HP and torque. As a reaction to the additional air flow, the fuel mixture is leaned out. So on average you add 20 - 30 HP and save 3-5 MPG. The adjustment to the IAT/ECT does not allow the sensor to exceed the factory specifications so it will not damage the vehicle or sensor.

    The chip is also made to be able to be removed and reinstalled easily. Although the changes are minimal, during inspection if they see an aftermarket part they may fail. We suggest that you remove the chip the day before the inspection and then reinstall after you pass. Same thing for taking the vehicle into the manufacturer for repair.

    Once purchased and you provide the Year, Make, Model and VIN Number, we provide you the diagram for finding and installing the unit in your specific vehicle. This chip will not disable the speed limitation set by the vehicle's computer.
     
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    I will try it and let you know for real.
     
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    This could be due to the exhaust and/or intake. I did intake/exhaust on a Scion TC and lost about 5 MPG. I drove it the same. I put the stock intake back on and MPG went back to normal.
     

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